Bing Aerial Maps poskytnute pre OSM

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Martin Ždila

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Nov 23, 2010, 4:12:40 PM11/23/10
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Ahojte

Citam, ze Microsoft poskytol svoje Bing Aerial Maps OSM komunite ... http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2010/11/23/bing-engages-open-maps-community.aspx

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pavol trenkler

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a kua, zas Kosice mimo hry :))
Yahoo, Microsoft...ostava uz len Google :P

On Nov 23, 10:12 pm, Martin Ždila <m.zd...@mwaysolutions.com> wrote:
> Ahojte
>
> Citam, ze Microsoft poskytol svoje Bing Aerial Maps OSM komunite ...http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2010/11/23/bi...
>
> --
> Ing. Martin Ždila
> CTO
>
> M-Way Solutions Slovakia s.r.o.
> Letná 27, 040 01 Košice
> Slovakia
>
> tel:+421-908-363-848
> mailto:m.zd...@mwaysolutions.comhttp://www.mwaysolutions.com

Jozef Vince (freemap.sk)

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Nad landsatom su obcas flaky s vyssim rozlisenim ;) nie je to zle...ale
takto zase nepojdeme von mapovat :))))

Asi treba pockat ci si niekto nerobi prvy april...

d.

Martin Ždila

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2010/11/24 Jozef Vince (freemap.sk) <jozef...@freemap.sk>

Asi treba pockat ci si niekto nerobi prvy april...

Aj podla wiki este treba pckat ... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing

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kayle

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Nov 24, 2010, 2:08:34 PM11/24/10
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no asi snad nie ked Steve Coast zacal robit pre microsoft
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/OpenStreetMap-founder-joins-Microsoft-
s-Bing-Maps-team-1141441.html

Milan Nobonn

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Nov 25, 2010, 4:03:56 AM11/25/10
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To ze Steve Coast zacal pracovat pre Microsoft este nic neznamena.
Vlastnikom Big Aerial Maps je Microsoft, pripadne dalsi poskytovatelia
od ktorych ma Microsoft licenciu.

Povolenie na pouzivanie Bing Aerial Maps musi prist oficialnou cestou
od Microsoftu.

2010/11/24 kayle <kayl...@gmail.com>:

pavol trenkler

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Nov 30, 2010, 8:03:11 PM11/30/10
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Tak uz mame aj pravnicke kecy okolo toho
http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details
podpora pre JOSM sa objavi predpokladam v priebehu par hodin ci dni

On Nov 25, 10:03 am, Milan Nobonn <milan.nob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To ze Steve Coast zacal pracovat pre Microsoft este nic neznamena.
> Vlastnikom Big Aerial Maps je Microsoft, pripadne dalsi poskytovatelia
> od ktorych ma Microsoft licenciu.
>
> Povolenie na pouzivanie Bing Aerial  Maps musi prist oficialnou cestou
> od Microsoftu.
>
> 2010/11/24 kayle <kayle...@gmail.com>:
>
>
>
> > no asi snad nie ked Steve Coast zacal robit pre microsoft
> >http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/OpenStreetMap-founder-joins-Mi...

Lubos Petrovic

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Dec 1, 2010, 12:16:23 AM12/1/10
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Super sprava.
Ako budeme tagovat ?
  source=bing | ms  ci source:name=bing

2010/12/1 pavol trenkler <pal...@gmail.com>

kayle.sk

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Dec 1, 2010, 12:33:22 AM12/1/10
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Podla http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing to je source=Bing

kayle

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No ale vyzera to ze akosi nesedi podkladova Bing vrstva, aspon ta v okoli PD, vid priloha. Prievidza podla kapor-a, ale aj Novaky ktore su z GPS stop su posunute dolava.
Potlach2_Bing-Novaky.jpg
Potlach2_Bing-Prievidza.jpg

Lubos Petrovic

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Dec 1, 2010, 1:42:24 AM12/1/10
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v HC to sedi skoro uplne presne

2010/12/1 kayle <fre...@kayle.sk>

Kandy Talbot

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Be aware that at lower zooms, Bing's imagery is misaligned [1]. This is true of various places in the southwest US (if you see more areas, please add them here).

You might use a source tag: source=Bing.

KT

[1]: http://blog.samat.org/p/Bing-Imagery-Misaligned-at-Lower-Zooms

Lubos Petrovic

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Dec 1, 2010, 2:09:06 AM12/1/10
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fakt,, na vacsom zoome je aj HC mimo :/ sory za dezinformaciu

2010/12/1 Kandy Talbot <kandy....@gmail.com>

Jozef Riha

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source:name=bing by znamenalo, ze name= tag vznikol na zaklade source
tagu, co pri leteckom pohlade nie je moc dobre mozne. len pridam, ze
tento tag je nepovinny (hoci pravdepodobne uzitocny pre statistiky).

2010/12/1 Lubos Petrovic <nick...@gmail.com>:

Jozef Riha

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mam pocit, ze v PD bude iny problem. nech zoomujem ako chcem, budovy
su stale posunute..

2010/12/1 Jozef Riha <jose...@gmail.com>:

tomas....@gmail.com

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Niekde na vychode su dokonca kaporwms a data z kaporpluginu mimo ..... ale podla mna .... plus minus meter

Milan Nobonn

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Bing pouziva rozne zdroje dat pre rozne zoomy, pre rozne oblasti.
Pre najvacsie mierky sa pravdepodobne pouzivaju satelitne snimky Landsat 7.

2010/12/1 Kandy Talbot <kandy....@gmail.com>:

kayle

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Povedal by som ze cela ta cast kde je PD je mierne mimo. Pretoze inak by
musel byt aj kapor aj NLC aj GPS log mimo. Vid priloha kde je par logov
v JOSM.
No nic, budovy v okolitych dedinkach kde nie je kapor pribudnu neskor az
to bude mozne zobrazit v JOSM, tam sa bude dat jednoduchsie vsetko posunut.
PD-OSM-GPX.png

pavol trenkler

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podpora pre JOSM:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-December/055132.html

On Dec 1, 2:03 am, pavol trenkler <palk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tak uz mame aj pravnicke kecy okolo tohohttp://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details

Martin Ždila

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Mam JOSM 3688 (svn up && ant) ale tento zdroj tam nevidim. No pridal som si sourpe cez key=value preferencies ako si pisal a toto funguje. Vdaka.

Mohli by inac dorobit slippymap aby to podporovalo aj viacero zdrojov naraz a nie furt prepinat a restartovat JOSM...

2010/12/1 pavol trenkler <pal...@gmail.com>

nobon

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Podla stranky
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/SlippyMap
je jednym z autorov

lubomi...@freemap.sk

Poznate ho, je este aktivny v komunite OSM ?

pavol trenkler

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Dec 1, 2010, 8:17:54 AM12/1/10
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Ja som si musel cez preferences manualne updatnut slippymap plugin,
ako je tam aj uvedene

Tomas Kovacik

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ja prepinam slippy map zdroj v pref a nepoterbuje to retart

Milan Margus

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Dec 1, 2010, 8:32:39 AM12/1/10
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zvacsa to aj mne tak funguje, obcas nie a podklad sa zmeni az po restarte

Jozef Vince (freemap.sk)

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NEGATIVE :(
Pisal som mu o tom nedavno, bez reakcie :S

> -----Original Message-----
> From: osm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:osm...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of nobon
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:08 PM
> To: Openstreetmap Slovakia
> Subject: [osm_sk] Re: Bing Aerial Maps poskytnute pre OSM
>

Jozef Riha

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funguje Vam v najnovsom josm (s podporou bingu) kapor plugin? j

2010/12/1 Jozef Vince (freemap.sk) <jozef...@freemap.sk>:


> NEGATIVE :(
> Pisal som mu o tom nedavno, bez reakcie :S
>

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: osm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:osm...@googlegroups.com] On

>> Behalf Of nobon
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:08 PM
>> To: Openstreetmap Slovakia
>> Subject: [osm_sk] Re: Bing Aerial Maps poskytnute pre OSM
>>

Martin Ždila

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Unable to retrieve data for layer "kraje". A connection to data source "kapor2_oracle" could not be established. ORA-12170: TNS: Časový limit pripojenia uplynul

For further information please contact the Autodesk MapGuide system administrator.


Ale nemyslim si ze to bude versiou JOSM. Ja davam svn up && ant kazdy den a kapor plugin vzdy isiel.


2010/12/1 Jozef Riha <jose...@gmail.com>

Milan Margus

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Dec 1, 2010, 1:06:43 PM12/1/10
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Rovnaka chyba teraz, ale cca 2hod dozadu mi to s novym JOSM slo

Tomas Kovacik

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Dec 1, 2010, 1:26:47 PM12/1/10
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skusali ste to v IE priamo z kapor stranky?

Milan Margus

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Dec 1, 2010, 1:37:09 PM12/1/10
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nejde ani http://www.katasterportal.sk/

mozno doplnaju do db vsetky biele miesta :)
snivame dalej...

Jozef Vince (freemap.sk)

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>
> nejde ani http://www.katasterportal.sk/
>
> mozno doplnaju do db vsetky biele miesta :)
> snivame dalej...
>
Alebo ho zrusili. Uplne ...

Jozef Riha

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zaujimava vec. povazany: bing s kaporom licuje, o nieco juznejsie v
potvoriciach uz je posunuty..

2010/12/1 Milan Nobonn <milan....@gmail.com>:

pavol trenkler

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Inak ak potrebujete skorigovat (posunut) Bing vrstvu podla budov v
kapor-e (alebo inych pevnych bodov), tak odporucam plugin Imagery (je
cerstvy, priam este teply :) takze mozno bude treba v JOSM spravit
update zoznamu pluginov) - potom si z hlavneho menu vyberte Imagery -
Bing sat, posun layeru urobite jeho aktivaciou a prislusnym tlacidlom
na lavej liste ("Adjust the position...")

nobon

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Dec 2, 2010, 3:40:31 AM12/2/10
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Pokial nefuguje zobrazenie map na stranke
https://www.katasterportal.sk/
nemoze fungovat ani kapor plugin v JOSM, lebo data su stahovane z toho
isteho serveru.

KatasterWMS je nezavisly od katasterportal.sk.

https://www.katasterportal.sk/ uz znova zobrazuje mapy.

On Dec 1, 7:48 pm, "Jozef Vince \(freemap.sk\)"
<jozef.vi...@freemap.sk> wrote:
> > nejde anihttp://www.katasterportal.sk/

nobon

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Spadol im ORACLE server, v ktorom maju GIS data a Autodesk MapGuide
aplikacny server este bezal :)

On Dec 1, 7:02 pm, Martin Ždila <m.zd...@mwaysolutions.com> wrote:
> Unable to retrieve data for layer "kraje". A connection to data source
> "kapor2_oracle" could not be established. ORA-12170: TNS: Časový limit
> pripojenia uplynul
>
> For further information please contact the Autodesk MapGuide system
> administrator.
>
> Ale nemyslim si ze to bude versiou JOSM. Ja davam svn up && ant kazdy den a
> kapor plugin vzdy isiel.
>
> 2010/12/1 Jozef Riha <jose1...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> > funguje Vam v najnovsom josm (s podporou bingu) kapor plugin? j
>
> > 2010/12/1 Jozef Vince (freemap.sk) <jozef.vi...@freemap.sk>:
> > > NEGATIVE :(
> > > Pisal som mu o tom nedavno, bez reakcie :S
>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: osm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:osm...@googlegroups.com] On
> > >> Behalf Of nobon
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 2:08 PM
> > >> To: Openstreetmap Slovakia
> > >> Subject: [osm_sk] Re: Bing Aerial Maps poskytnute pre OSM
>
> > >> Podla stranky
> > >>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/SlippyMap
> > >> je jednym z autorov
>
> > >> lubomir.va...@freemap.sk
>
> > >> Poznate ho, je este aktivny v komunite OSM ?
>
> > >> On Dec 1, 1:26 pm, Martin Ždila <m.zd...@mwaysolutions.com> wrote:
> > >> > Mam JOSM 3688 (svn up && ant) ale tento zdroj tam nevidim. No pridal
> > >> som si
> > >> > sourpe cez key=value preferencies ako si pisal a toto funguje. Vdaka.
>
> > >> > Mohli by inac dorobit slippymap aby to podporovalo aj viacero zdrojov
> > >> naraz
> > >> > a nie furt prepinat a restartovat JOSM...
>
> --
> Ing. Martin Ždila
> CTO
>
> M-Way Solutions Slovakia s.r.o.
> Letná 27, 040 01 Košice
> Slovakia
>
> tel:+421-908-363-848
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Jozef Siska

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On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 10:27:31PM +0100, Jozef Riha wrote:
> zaujimava vec. povazany: bing s kaporom licuje, o nieco juznejsie v
> potvoriciach uz je posunuty..

Clovek by az cudoval... ale je to vcelku casta situacia... google je na
tom este horsie co som videl, niektore miesta su hodne posunute. Okolo
ponik je satelite hodne posunuta (cca 40m), vektorovu mapu maju vcelku
presnu, tak to potom vyzera takto:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Bratislava,+Slovakia&ll=48.708415,19.287486&spn=0.003604,0.0103&t=h&z=17

;)

Bing je na tom lepsie, asi iba 10m ;)

yoyo

Milan Nobonn

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Takze pokial sa najde oficialny postup ako pouzivat Big Aerial Maps v
JOSM ponukam tu pristup pomocou TMS sluzby. Tymto sa da pouzit
slippymap v JOSM.

Pridajte si do preferences tieto riadky

slippymap.custom_tile_source_5.name=Bing
slippymap.custom_tile_source_5.path=/1.0.0/Bing/%z/%x/%y
slippymap.custom_tile_source_5.url=http://93.184.70.94:21880/cgi-bin/BingTMS.fcgi

Napriklad pre oblast Bratislavy je rozlisenie priblizne 20cm ./ pixel.
Co je porovnatelne s najlepsimi komercnymi poskytovatelmi.

Milan Nobonn

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Ten skript je po technickej stranke rieseny pomocou HTTP
presmerovania, takze o nas sa nestahuju ziadne mapove data. Skript iba
riesi prepocitavanie suradnic, samotna mapove data si JOSM potom
stahuje automaticky od Microsoftu.

2010/12/1 Milan Nobonn <milan....@gmail.com>:

Martin Ždila

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Umoznuje licencia pouzit BIng mapy priamo na Freemap.sk ako letecku mapu?

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Martin Ždila

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2010/12/3 Martin Ždila <m.z...@mwaysolutions.com>

Umoznuje licencia pouzit BIng mapy priamo na Freemap.sk ako letecku mapu?

bump!

Bolo by fajn mat na Freemap.sk letecku vrstvu BING.

Lubos Petrovic

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Ale umoznuje to licencia ? Alebo len na obkreslovanie ?

2010/12/13 Martin Ždila <m.z...@mwaysolutions.com>:

Martin Ždila

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To sa aj ja pytam. Luskaci licencii by to mohli pozriet :-)

2010/12/13 Lubos Petrovic <nick...@gmail.com>

Jozef Vince (freemap.sk)

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Teoreticky to ide s kazdou mapou, pokial ccbysa data z osm budu ako transparentna vrstva (akoze na styl colaborative a nie derived work  )... len potom tlacit by sa nemali zlepene osm +ine aerial ... co neviem ako zakazeme...

 

Chvilu sme mali google, ale ad 1) ze komercnu "konkurenciu" nie ked sme (OSM)free  map, 2) nie som si celkom isty toho mojho tvrdenie vyssie...

 

Dodi

Jozef Riha

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Dec 13, 2010, 7:50:49 AM12/13/10
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urcite to nie je to, co by sme chceli, ale mozno by sa k tomu vedeli
vyjadrit aj ludia okolo http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bing/

2010/12/13 Jozef Vince (freemap.sk) <jozef...@freemap.sk>:


> Teoreticky to ide s kazdou mapou, pokial ccbysa data z osm budu ako
> transparentna vrstva (akoze na styl colaborative a nie derived work  )...
> len potom tlacit by sa nemali zlepene osm +ine aerial ... co neviem ako
> zakazeme...
>
>
>
> Chvilu sme mali google, ale ad 1) ze komercnu "konkurenciu" nie ked sme
> (OSM)free  map, 2) nie som si celkom isty toho mojho tvrdenie vyssie...
>
>
>
> Dodi
>
>
>

> From: osm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:osm...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

> Martin Ždila
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 1:31 PM
> To: osm...@googlegroups.com

Milan Nobonn

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Je polene na jednej web stranke pouzivat aj Bing Maps a dokonca aj
Google Maps a popri tom tam zobrazovat este dalsie udaje. napriklad
http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/
http://www.bikemap.net/

Len sa pritom musi dodrziavat licencia Bing, Google a dalsie.
Napriklad treba dokladne vyznacit ze nejde o mapove podklady OSM,
treba uviest odkaz na prislusne licencie, nesmie sa obkreslovat z
nepovolenenych zdrojov, atd.

2010/12/13 Jozef Vince (freemap.sk) <jozef...@freemap.sk>:
> Teoreticky to ide s kazdou mapou, pokial ccbysa data z osm budu ako
> transparentna vrstva (akoze na styl colaborative a nie derived work  )...
> len potom tlacit by sa nemali zlepene osm +ine aerial ... co neviem ako
> zakazeme...
>
>
>
> Chvilu sme mali google, ale ad 1) ze komercnu "konkurenciu" nie ked sme
> (OSM)free  map, 2) nie som si celkom isty toho mojho tvrdenie vyssie...
>
>
>
> Dodi
>
>
>

> From: osm...@googlegroups.com [mailto:osm...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

> Martin Ždila
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 1:31 PM
> To: osm...@googlegroups.com

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