Fwd: [osdi-exec] RE: OSDI
Josh Cohen
Subject: [osdi-exec] OSDI
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From: Josh Cohen <jos...@outlook.com>
Date: Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:16 AM
To: "manifesti...@gmail.com" <manifesti...@gmail.com>
Cc: osdi-exec <osdi...@googlegroups.com>
Hi Peter,
I saw your google group membership request for the OSDI committee. Thank you for reaching out.
You can see our main site here http://opensupporter.org We are a progressive led committee that has developed and steers the common API for representing data used by campaigns, nonprofits, social cause and civil efforts.
Our membership process involves a discussion with the prospective member to assess fit. (there are no fees)
Could you tell us a bit about yourself and your organization and what your goals are?
Which best characterizes your customer segments regarding political, cause based ideals?
1) Serves any and all customers/causes regardless of where they sit on the progressive<-> conservative spectrum
2) Serves mostly progressive customers/causes unless the best way to serve a progressive goal requires supporting a conservative/republican
3) Serves strictly only progressive candidates/candidates/causes
4) Other: Please articulate
5) Mainstream market - Primary customer markets are outside of politics/cause-based/voter outreach/etc, and if so, what?
Thanks,
Josh Cohen
OSDI Chair
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From: Josh Cohen <jos...@outlook.com>
Date: Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 3:59 PM
To: Peter Schmalfeldt <manifesti...@gmail.com>
Cc: osdi-exec <osdi...@googlegroups.com>
Hi Peter,
Thanks for the context. I guess the question is “What do you want to do?”
The google group(s) are tools the committee uses to organize, without much technical content. (the latter is on github)
We do maintain a supporter mailing list that we will periodically send email blasts to, which you can sign up to
But you are looking for technical information related to OSDI, our specifications are public on our github.
http://opensupporter.github.io/osdi-docs/
You can also interact with the committee via github with issues (questions, suggestions, pull requests). These are reviewed by the committee and responded to in a timely manner.
Eg, today’s issue: https://github.com/opensupporter/osdi-docs/issues/261
So if you feel that the OSDI spec is missing attributes or whole resources that are applicable to your scenario, we’d love to know.
This approach is a light weight method. No need to fuss with the membership or Liaison process, organizational classification etc.
We have an engagement ladder, with the public github repo as the easiest.
We do maintain Liaison relationships with bipartisan efforts (which from my skim appears to be accurate for Civil Services)
So if your situation evolves and Civil Services wishes to establish a Liaison relationship,, (and you can commit to a weekly 1hour technical call), we can have that discussion.
Does this sound right to you?
From: Peter Schmalfeldt [mailto:manifestinteractive@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 11:42 AM
To: Josh Cohen <jos...@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: OSDI
Greetings Josh,
I am a Senior Software Engineer that has spent the past year working with Non-Profits like JoinCivilServices.org & StayWoke.org building API's that pull in Government Data. During my time working with these organizations, I was finding that access to City,
State & Federal Government data was kind of hit or miss, regardless of where someone stood in the political spectrum. This is what inspired me to look into making
https://civil.services which would hopefully centralize this data ( some from existing API's others we aggregate on our own ) and make it available to the public for their own usage.
In regards to my organization, I have fully documented the goal of Civil Services here:
https://gist.github.com/manifestinteractive/a18b742550fa4014b0b4cb8c2b164469
BTW, one of the people helping me with setting up my organization told me about your Google Group and that I would likely be very interested in your content. Really I am only interested on a personal level and had not really planned on using anything from
the group other than for personal education. I feel like I should really try to educate myself on whats out there, regardless of political affiliation or agendas. I realize I have my own, and others will have theirs. But as far as I am concerned, as long
as I am focusing on providing raw data and allowing people to consume it in an easily digestible manner, I am providing a service. People will be able to use that data for their own purposes, which I am aware will sometimes include agendas counter to my own.
But, that's the way the world works, ha ha.
Have a Great Day,
- Peter
January 16, 2017 at 11:16 AM
Hi Peter,
I saw your google group membership request for the OSDI committee. Thank you for reaching out.
You can see our main site here http://opensupporter.org We are a progressive led committee that has developed and steers the common API for representing data used by campaigns, nonprofits, social cause and civil efforts.
Our membership process involves a discussion with the prospective member to assess fit. (there are no fees)
Could you tell us a bit about yourself and your organization and what your goals are?
Which best characterizes your customer segments regarding political, cause based ideals?
1) Serves any and all customers/causes regardless of where they sit on the progressive<-> conservative spectrum
2) Serves mostly progressive customers/causes unless the best way to serve a progressive goal requires supporting a conservative/republican
3) Serves strictly only progressive candidates/candidates/causes
4) Other: Please articulate
5) Mainstream market - Primary customer markets are outside of politics/cause-based/voter outreach/etc, and if so, what?
Thanks,
Josh Cohen
OSDI Chair
- Peter
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From: Josh Cohen <jos...@outlook.com>
Date: Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM
To: osdi-exec <osdi...@googlegroups.com>
The conversation he’s referring to is the Elected official and the member who he’s referring to is Walker Hamilton. (revolution?)
Members shouldn’t be discussing the specifics of our internal conversations, nor providing them with specific links to threads..
Peter’s also being kind of cagey here, and I find it annoying when someone keeps dropping a cc.
Let’s chat about this in exec.
From: Peter Schmalfeldt [mailto:manifestinteractive@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 4:58 PM
To: Josh Cohen <jos...@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: OSDI
I was introduced to OSDI Google Group, via Walker Hamilton who might be in your group:
"I you aren’t on the OSDI list and have the ability to join it (I don’t know what their current requirements are) you should. This conversation is important:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/osdi-dev/pqN_k30N7cA"
I was honestly just trying to see what he thought was important for me to read. If anything, that is what I was trying to do. In regards to the rest of your services, I might not need them, I just felt that he wanted me to see something he felt was important
for me to read, and attempted to access it so I could do so.
It might very well be the case that I don't need membership access at all. I just wanted to have access to read a link that was sent to me :)
- Peter
January 16, 2017 at 3:59 PM
- PeterJanuary 16, 2017 at 11:41 AM
- Peter
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From: Josh Cohen <jos...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:31 AM
To: Josh Cohen <jos...@outlook.com>
Cc: Peter Schmalfeldt <manifesti...@gmail.com>
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From: Josh Cohen <jos...@outlook.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:32 AM
To: osdi-exec <osdi...@googlegroups.com>
FYI
From: Josh Cohen [mailto:jos...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:32 AM
To: Josh Cohen <jos...@outlook.com>
Cc: Peter Schmalfeldt <manifesti...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [osdi-exec] RE: OSDI
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From: Peter Schmalfeldt <manifesti...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:33 AM
To: Josh Cohen <jos...@gmail.com>
To be clear, all Walker said was that IF I had access to the article, I should check it out. I never was told what was in it, or anything. Just to check it out if I could, as he felt it was important.
I literally have no idea what he wanted me to see, ha ha.
Anyway, glad to hear you have such stringent protections up against Trumpers, they are a nasty bunch. I made an electoral college widget to allow people to contact members to help them convince not to vote for Trump, and one of the damn electors collected the emails for people contacting her and released it to a Pro trump group. Shit was nasty.
Anyway, keep up the assumingely good work. Maybe one day I can see it first hand, ha ha :)
- Peter
January 27, 2017 at 1:31 AMPeter,The email thread you refer to was about modeling a legislator and their multiple offices and phone numbers. It's sort of like an advanced Person.We're going to move that conversation to a github issue so you and any others who wish to can engage.I realize your request would seem perfectly reasonable to most people, but our process isn't set up to support that.Committee email lists are private, and are so because we don't want Trumpers sniffing around.So we do our somewhat cumbersome membership vetting process before approving members.Walker probably shouldn't have shared as much detail as he did.He'll get a nonbinding, toothless, duncecap resolution or something-----
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January 16, 2017 at 3:59 PM
- PeterJanuary 16, 2017 at 11:41 AMGreetings Josh,
I am a Senior Software Engineer that has spent the past year working with Non-Profits like JoinCivilServices.org & StayWoke.org building API's that pull in Government Data. During my time working with these organizations, I was finding that access to City, State & Federal Government data was kind of hit or miss, regardless of where someone stood in the political spectrum. This is what inspired me to look into making https://civil.services which would hopefully centralize this data ( some from existing API's others we aggregate on our own ) and make it available to the public for their own usage.
In regards to my organization, I have fully documented the goal of Civil Services here:
https://gist.github.com/manifestinteractive/a18b742550fa4014b0b4cb8c2b164469
BTW, one of the people helping me with setting up my organization told me about your Google Group and that I would likely be very interested in your content. Really I am only interested on a personal level and had not really planned on using anything from the group other than for personal education. I feel like I should really try to educate myself on whats out there, regardless of political affiliation or agendas. I realize I have my own, and others will have theirs. But as far as I am concerned, as long as I am focusing on providing raw data and allowing people to consume it in an easily digestible manner, I am providing a service. People will be able to use that data for their own purposes, which I am aware will sometimes include agendas counter to my own. But, that's the way the world works, ha ha.
Have a Great Day,
- Peter
January 16, 2017 at 11:16 AMHi Peter,
I saw your google group membership request for the OSDI committee. Thank you for reaching out.
You can see our main site here http://opensupporter.org We are a progressive led committee that has developed and steers the common API for representing data used by campaigns, nonprofits, social cause and civil efforts.
Our membership process involves a discussion with the prospective member to assess fit. (there are no fees)
Could you tell us a bit about yourself and your organization and what your goals are?
Which best characterizes your customer segments regarding political, cause based ideals?
1) Serves any and all customers/causes regardless of where they sit on the progressive<-> conservative spectrum
2) Serves mostly progressive customers/causes unless the best way to serve a progressive goal requires supporting a conservative/republican
3) Serves strictly only progressive candidates/candidates/causes
4) Other: Please articulate
5) Mainstream market - Primary customer markets are outside of politics/cause-based/voter outreach/etc, and if so, what?
Thanks,
Josh Cohen
OSDI Chair
- Peter
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