Java is big! What is MDeC doing about it?

[Azrul MADISA]

Hi guys,

If you have seen The Star today, Java developers are actually getting a 'durian runtuh' and yet, what did MDeC do to encourage people to go into Java? Read my rant here [http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2011/02/java-is-still-big.html]

Azrul

[red1]

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Bro, i dont think those Java developers are easily trained by any
country. Real Javarians are like Ciscosians. Mesti faham molek-molek
dulu tentang apa itu OO dan manyak praktis itu OO. Mana orang mau bayar
lu jika program lu macam PiEdgePi?

[sweemeng ng]

What I learn, sometime a community need to be more independent. While help of organization like mdec may not be a bad thing. Being independent means the community can do things the way they want. Though it help to have big guns will make thing easier, but great things happens when people each contribute it's own way. from user join in meetup and share to company hosting meetup

p.s I sound optimistic

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[red1]

What i learnt Swee Meng, is that govt has to get out our way, so that we can thrive. The problem is that whenever we want to do some shouting or kicking ass, they join from the other opposing side, with tons of borangs and dasar to actually complicate matters. This is not my theory. It is many socio-economists theories. Including our own Salleh Majid once wrote about it in Utusan Melayu and have to cross blast with Pemuda Umno with 'F' words in front of me.

You can see it happens here. Everytime we try to organise oursleves the politikus wana hijack. It is time we reveal our strength and not even consider MDec's existence. For what may i ask? They aint gona give u a free lunch anyway unless you got collateral like any housing loan. C'mon, be sober about this. No one except Karma is gonna help u.

Heh Azrul, can i send my resume again to Experian? This time dont put bakul sampah yah? I now quite a master at some cool QA stuff as well as subject matter. Google my name to believe :)

[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

Agree with red1. Be independent, cannot live with a tongkat for life man.

Best form of nurturing is sometimes just stop with the dasars and
stuff; waste of time and money.

If we want funding isn't better to first get some results to show?
Cannot just sit and ask for help.

Eric

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[Azrul MADISA]

Red1, 

If you're interested, there's a bunch of stuff here http://job-search.jobstreet.com.my/malaysia/job-opening.php?key=experian&location=&specialization=&position=&ss=1&by=search&src=11. Send me your resume again. I'll talk to my software director directly this time around

Azrul

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:25 PM, red1 <re...@red1.org> wrote:

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