Looks like we may be "orphans"

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Hugh V

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May 25, 2010, 4:23:32 PM5/25/10
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It looks like this sight may be a small "family of orphans' with out a
parent or any way to add new members.

Although this group is supposed to be open membership, to be able to
keep out useless spam, the managers set up a situation to monitor
first submissions. That worked fine as long as we had manager's.

Unfortunately, something happened that Google temporarily suspended
Eski's account, (our owner-manager) and it looks like the term
"temporary suspension" means that although his mail box will keep
collecting stuff, he cant get into it, and cant get into this site to
do management..It also seems to mean that they are going to leave the
temporary on forever..

We don't know what is the situation with Ka-Sala, our other manager.
We hope she is O.K, bukt we havent herd from her for a while.,
Without an owner or manager, this account is a closed group.

I think that I'd advise anyone that is interested in the information
stored here that they might want to copy off the parts they need and
store it elsewhere. If, for some unknown reason, Eski has become
persona non grata to Google, there is no way of telling when they
might lower the boom on this site.

ka-sala

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May 25, 2010, 7:37:24 PM5/25/10
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Hello Hugh V
I'm alive...
But didn't know all this has happened in my absensce until today 26
May 2010. Can you fill me in some more ? I received a note from Eski
dated 28 April but have only got the Net back yesterday since moving.
I see there is a LOT to go over. But this 'Banning' of Eski ? Google
have been 'in error' for some time re accepting any management (or
making it pssible even by the task Eski has placed on me. ) Any
suggestions ? I don't believe we are 'orphans' ... but ??? Will wait
to hear from you.
Regards,
ka-sala

Jack O Suileabhain

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May 27, 2010, 11:01:47 AM5/27/10
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NOTE to FRIENDS:  When somebody-whoever has the 'stroke' &/or malicious inclination
to screw up your site; then that means that you are DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.
 
SURPRESSION OF IDEAS & concepts that 'threaten' the staid-Ivy-Halled establishment,
is a 'solid-indicator' that you are being: #1. OBSERVED & #2. YOUR ACCURACY is steering
you towards 'revelatory-discovery' that is considered HIGHLY-CLASSIFIED and worth
relatively-draconian measures to silence.
 
"Just because you're paranoid, DOESN'T mean that somebody is NOT out to get you/silence you."~;-)~Jack~
 Stay persistent and NEVER 'role-over/discourage' easily.
 
P.S. These kind of attacks by fairly-clever academics who are 'perturbed-off' at you; &/or by DARPA-R&D types
who prefer that you SHUT-UP; are fairly routine & to be expected from time to time/ been their before-often.
 
Cheer-up; you're pioneer-thinkers and they are small-minded-bureaucratic-psuedointellectual/psuedoscientist-JERKS!~;-)
 
 
 
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:23:32 -0700
> Subject: Looks like we may be "orphans"
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ka-sala

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May 29, 2010, 12:07:01 AM5/29/10
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JUST A NOTE OF CONFIRMATION.
Past Experience has silenced me personnally many times. One... was
included in my Profile, and my reason for placing it there. 'Others'
- at the time - had it in the 'pipe-line' for the Nobel. That... was
proof that what I had, was 'right'.

I only know that if each was to go back over ALL that has been entered
into this site on the O/S since Eski started - and although we are all
different within our approaches - facts are, the answer lies between
us all.

It can be drawn out like pieces of a jig-saw puzzle for those who have
the inclination to take the trouble. Each has contributed. Each has a
peice or two within their discussions etc. It is not mathamatical nor
verbal diahorrea, but the facts which have gotten lost in the maze of
threads... and many explainations.

Like a Living Peal of Wisdom, it is there for the plucking.

We are not 'orphans' if this can be proven, even is Eski 'appears' to
have been blocked for now. Something - if truth be on our side - must
even prove that, truth itself may have a way of being 'blocked' but
not from leaking. Like water it will find the gavity of this
situation, and we - all of us - are that Gravity! The 'Key' lies with
us.

All the very best to each member, and to hoek - my friend - thank you
for " Hi to my good friend ka-sala, may God always smile upon you.
hoek "

To ESKI... I do trust this will soon be overcome.

We are in this boat together. Take Care.
Regards,
ka-sala






On May 28, 1:01 am, Jack O Suileabhain <braghgoerin...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> NOTE to FRIENDS:  When somebody-whoever has the 'stroke' &/or malicious inclination
>
> to screw up your site; then that means that you are DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.
>
> SURPRESSION OF IDEAS & concepts that 'threaten' the staid-Ivy-Halled establishment,
>
> is a 'solid-indicator' that you are being: #1. OBSERVED & #2. YOUR ACCURACY is steering
>
> you towards 'revelatory-discovery' that is considered HIGHLY-CLASSIFIED and worth
>
> relatively-draconian measures to silence.
>
> "Just because you're paranoid, DOESN'T mean that somebody is NOT out to get you/silence you."~;-)~Jack~
>  Stay persistent and NEVER 'role-over/discourage' easily.
>
> P.S. These kind of attacks by fairly-clever academics who are 'perturbed-off' at you; &/or by DARPA-R&D types
>
> who prefer that you SHUT-UP; are fairly routine & to be expected from time to time/ been their before-often.
>
> Cheer-up; you're pioneer-thinkers and they are small-minded-bureaucratic-psuedointellectual/psuedoscientist-JERKS!~;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 13:23:32 -0700
> > Subject: Looks like we may be "orphans"
> > From: hughv...@gmail.com
>
> > To: oscillatorsub...@googlegroups.com> It looks like this sight may be a small "family of orphans' with out a
> > parent or any way to add new members.
>
> > Although this group is supposed to be open membership, to be able to
> > keep out useless spam, the managers set up a situation to monitor
> > first submissions. That worked fine as long as we had manager's.
>
> > Unfortunately, something happened that Google temporarily suspended
> > Eski's account, (our owner-manager) and it looks like the term
> > "temporary suspension" means that although his mail box will keep
> > collecting stuff, he cant get into it, and cant get into this site to
> > do management..It also seems to mean that they are going to leave the
> > temporary on forever..
>
> > We don't know what is the situation with Ka-Sala, our other manager.
> > We hope she is O.K, bukt we havent herd from her for a while.,
> > Without an owner or manager, this account is a closed group.
>
> > I think that I'd advise anyone that is interested in the information
> > stored here that they might want to copy off the parts they need and
> > store it elsewhere. If, for some unknown reason, Eski has become
> > persona non grata to Google, there is no way of telling when they
> > might lower the boom on this site.
>
> > --
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> > To post to this group, send email to oscillatorsub...@googlegroups.com.
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oscillatorsubstance...@googlegroups.com.
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ESKI

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Jun 10, 2010, 4:37:47 PM6/10/10
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An update on the situation .
After a week of trying to get a response from Google and having the
Library here try to contact them, to no avail. I gave up and started
to work around them, About ten days later, I tried the e-mail again.
This time, instead of a cut-off notice, they said, "Suspicious
activity detected, change your password. I did so and they let me back
in. I haven't figured out; however, how they knew I was "me" and that
they were not giving my "hacker" my account for good. I suppose they
figured that in that case they would close it "permanently."

Checking my Sent Mail, I found that some one had sent a "non-content"
message to a non-existent mail address, to someone who apparently
doesn't exist,. from my e-mail address. This non-message had been
bounced back eleven times. Apparently on the 12th try Google
suspended the address. So that's the story. I'm back, but, needless
to say, I 'm trying to keep back-ups so I won't be caught quite so
short the next time something like this comes up.

Incidentally or site seems to be getting several hits an hour. which I
think is good news. However, we're not collecting any new members.

At least, however, the hits do not appear to be from "Spammers" as
some of our early hits, and "members" turned out to be. ESKI
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