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Gifford, Geoffrey

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Feb 26, 2009, 4:09:56 AM2/26/09
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Hi Everybody,
 
Don't forget!
 
It's going to be great fun, informative and productive.
 

 

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Neil Warnock

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Feb 26, 2009, 6:01:48 AM2/26/09
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FYI a statement was issued by the Gov't on tuesday in support of open source. Not the first time it's been endorsed but this looks serious.
 
 
 
Expect a "useless unsecure crap" backlash campaign from Microsoft, Oracle, SAP et al.
We need to be ready to deal with the FUD factor they create, by dispelling the myths surrounding business open source and illustrating with case studies.
 
Happy to take a lead on this or (preferably) support whoever wants to champion it. 
 

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Neil Warnock

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Feb 26, 2009, 6:08:30 AM2/26/09
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Ah, here's the CIO Council's official statement
 
 
...already being reported as a disingenuous political move...
 
 

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FYI a statement was issued by the Gov't on tuesday in support of open source. Not the first time it's been endorsed but this looks serious.
 
 
 
Expect a "useless unsecure crap" backlash campaign from Microsoft, Oracle, SAP et al.
We need to be ready to deal with the FUD factor they create, by dispelling the myths surrounding business open source and illustrating with case studies.
 
Happy to take a lead on this or (preferably) support whoever wants to champion it. 
 

Neil Warnock

Luminary - An Ingres Company

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Email: Neil.W...@luminary.co.uk

 

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Helen Whitehead

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Feb 26, 2009, 6:11:50 AM2/26/09
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Hi Neil

I've already blogged about this on reachfurther.com :)  Happy to join you as an evangelist, as always.

There must be a few of us with material for case studies. How about everyone jots down some notes and then a writer volunteer can knock them into something concrete?

Sorry I can't be there this afternoon. Have a great meeting

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Michael Sparks

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Feb 26, 2009, 6:45:28 AM2/26/09
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Hi All,


Unfortunately I can't make it (I'm double booked), but thought I'd jump in.

On Thursday 26 February 2009 11:01:48 Neil Warnock wrote:
> FYI a statement was issued by the Gov't on tuesday in support of open
> source. Not the first time it's been endorsed but this looks serious.
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7910110.stm

Indeed it's not the first time, but from my mind, this isn't just any one
party now. All 3 major parties have now endorsed open source repeatedly and
publicly in a variety statements. Lib dems have been doing so for a while.
David Cameron did the same thing at a Nesta talk last year, and now the
government. John Pugh is a relatively local MP (Southport) who's been very
supportive of open source now for a number of years.

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/feb/24/opensource-internet
>
> http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/uk-government-to-save-600m-with-open-s


> ource-255
>
> Expect a "useless unsecure crap" backlash campaign from Microsoft,
> Oracle, SAP et al.
> We need to be ready to deal with the FUD factor they create, by
> dispelling the myths surrounding business open source and illustrating
> with case studies.

In the spirit of case studies the following may be useful to people:

Presentation given at Linux World a couple of years ago:
"Open Source at the BBC - when, why, why not and how"
http://www.slideshare.net/kamaelian/open-source-at-the-bbc-when-why-why-not-how

Text version/post talk transcript:
http://yeoldeclue.com/cgi-bin/blog/blog.cgi?rm=viewpost&nodeid=1162045468

Crucially the talk doesn't really just cover open source at the BBC, but more
the arguments that I've found effective in the various types of places I've
worked (at a university, software development house, and BBC).

The simplest ones boil down to "would you avoid a proprietary product simply
because a competitor of theirs told you it was insecure?" vs "would you avoid
an open source product simply because a competitor of theirs told you it was
insecure?"

It's worth thinking about really: would Oracle get away with claiming
Microsoft's software was less secure than theirs ? or vice versa?


Michael.
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