Copy of a letter from Metropolitan Kyrill to President V.V. Putin

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Rev. Fr. Elias Greer

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Mar 19, 2007, 4:00:00 PM3/19/07
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Fax machine line reads:
FROM: Holy Synod
FAX NO.: 952 20 27
AUG. 07 2006 05:21
Actual text of faxed document, on official letterhead (which is in
Russian and English)

Moscow Patriarchate
Russian Orthodox Church
Holy Synod
Department for External Church Relations
Danilovsky Monastery
22 Danilovsky Val, Moscow 11591
Phone: (095) 954-04-54
Fax: (095) 230-26-19

No. 16/72 01-08-2006

To The President of the Russian Federation, Putin, Vladimir V.

Most Highly Esteemed Vladimir Vladimirovich!

In violation of the prohibition of the Holy Patriarch, and of the
memorial society "Primirenie", monuments to the White leaders and to
the Cossack Atamans, bearing the names of the accomplices of the
Fascists have been erected without authorization on the territory of
the Patriarchate's metochion of All Saints at Sokol [in Moscow] by the
followers of the heresiarch of the Diaspora, Lavr, and his false
pastors.

No contacts whatsoever are permitted with the schismatic
collaborationist Russian Orthodox Church Abroad, which has not
repented publicly before us for the great sin of blessing the stooge
of the Fascists by her heresiarch and collaborator of Hitler,
Anastasy.

We confirm the decision of the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox
Church-Moscow Patriarchate which excommunicated from our Church the
false Metropolitan Anastasy and the schismatics of the ROCA during the
years of the holy war [WWII] of the Soviet people under the leadership
of our great Orthodox leader, Joseph Stalin, against the fascist
enslavers. This verdict against the criminal was pronounced by the
State Court. [Emphasis in original.]

No assembly whatsoever, much less one of the political character, or
pannikhidas for the followers of Vlasov or the Cossacks, who entered
into the service of Hitler, can be allowed. We bless all our faithful
children to publicly expel the followers of the Karlovchanians from
the parishes of the ROC/MP and of the ROCA. Our clergy and laity are
permitted to overthrow the monuments of the fascists stooges von
Panwitz, Sultan-Girey, Krasnov, Shkuro, and Vlasov on the territory of
the Patriarchate's metochion of All Saints at Sokol and of the
parishes of the ROCA. It is blessed to smash other such structures
bearing the manes of the heterodox [one word illegible} and godless
[one word illegible] of their false Prophet Mohammed, who, headed by
Sultan-Girey, fought against our God-given Soviet state.

May the Lord aid you in the God-pleasing labor of eradicating the
impious Karlovchanians with their Vlasov-Fascist world-view, headed by
their false Metropolitan Lavr.

+Kyrill
Chairman of the Department for External Church Relations
of the Moscow Patriarchate
Metropolitan of Smolensk and Kaliningrad

Priest Michail Dudko Telephone: 95 2 20 27 [This is the same phone
number from which the document was faxed; see above.] [Note that Fr.
Michael Dudko, son of the famous Fr. Dimitry Duko, is Secretary for
Church-Society Relations of the MP's Dept. for External Church
Relations.]

ratzinger

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Mar 20, 2007, 12:36:10 PM3/20/07
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"Have you ever bargained with God? Be honest now. Have you ever prayed and
said that if God would answer your prayer, then you would do, give, go or
whatever you feel is a something which will please God?

I want to tell you right now, that does not work! God is never pleased with
our "deals." He knows our heart and can see through our pious schemes. Our
bargains with God are usually attempts to avoid doing the very thing God has
called us to do.

If the truth were known, our bargains with God usually are intended to make
things easier for us financially, physically or emotionally. We find
ourselves in a difficult situation and ask God to prove Himself by answering
our prayer."

Of course,you are right. everybody does it. from the suicide who is begging
God, trying to blackmail God ( If you don't help me, I'll kill myself, etc.)
or people already rich begging God for even more material stuff, as if
they not only deserved it, but
was vowed of it by God, and he is depriving us
of a luxury car , or a better house, etc, etc.

Every one waiting in line for the gas in nazi germany begged God with tears
to let it fall on someone else,
little caring that it will be their turn to die tomorrow.

All this is merely human nature, and a lack of faith.
God's first quality is that he is love. But he is also absolute, soverine,
and truly above all and always
can do as he pleases at anytime.

Rafael Resende Daher

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Mar 21, 2007, 7:18:21 PM3/21/07
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Dear all,

Sorry, but, why is the date of this is letter?




in XC,
Rafael

P. Siluan Dignac

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Mar 21, 2007, 8:42:11 PM3/21/07
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Dear Rafael:
 
It seem it is August 7, 2006, reason why it is much more interesting and amazing. (He is referring so about the ROCOR hierarches when the Uniya was already being carried out and the matter was quite resolved)
 
In Christ
 
Priest Siluan

P. Siluan Dignac

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Mar 21, 2007, 8:45:32 PM3/21/07
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P. Siluan Dignac

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Mar 21, 2007, 8:59:46 PM3/21/07
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Sorry, August 7, 2006 is the date when it was faced, but it seem the date of the original letter is  August 1, 2006.  My comment about this situation is the same one that that I say previously, I think that there would not be any necessity to rectify it for just 6 days less.
 
In Christ
 
p.S.

Rev. Fr. Elias Greer, Chancellor

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Mar 21, 2007, 10:33:23 PM3/21/07
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The date of the letter written by MET. KYRILL (GUNDYAEV) to PRESIDENT V.V. PUTIN is clearly on posted in the main title on the "Documents" page of our web site (Jan. 8, 2006) as well as below, where it states:

        Russian Orthodox Church
        Holy Synod
        Department for External Church Relations......etc


        Phone: (095) 954-04-54
        Fax: (095) 230-26-19

        No. 16/72         01-08-2006

 

With love in Christ,
Fr. Elias Greer

Chancellor

 

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Bishop Andrew

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Mar 21, 2007, 11:10:48 PM3/21/07
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The date is shown as 01.08.2006. In the USA, this would be understood as January 8th, but in Europe, it would be understood as the first of Augusut.
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