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3. Challenges for 2011 (apuroh...@gmail.com)
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Dear smart and savvy readers:
On the behalf of OdishaTodayNetwork, as Moderator - I wish you all a very
very Happy New Year 2011
New year wishes to ORNET readers as well.
Let us start the new hear with new hope.
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Wish you all Odias best of 2011!!
Ornet was started in late 90s and it is still alive by all means.
Thanks to many who all shaped it and are still keeping active.
Sunil
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Greetings for the new year.
What is happening in Telengana should and must be a concern for Orissans. Sri Krishna report is already tendered, and though the entire report will be released on January 6, the whisper is that the report will favour formation of Telengana as a separate state. Not surprisingly, the anticipation of the release of the report is causing lot of excitement in Koshal area. It is because Telengana case is as identical as can be in the case of Koshal area in Orissa. Both, Telengana and Koshal, are ten district each; both cite of utter neglect from their home provinces; both claim coastal region gobble up lion?s share of resources leaving little for their development; both claim lack of adequate governance resulting in Naxalite penetration; both have massive illiteracy and poverty as compared to coastal area; both feel that under current political arrangement, development of their region is hampered; both feel that normal ways of petitioning or providing logical arguments for equitab
le treatment are simply pushed aside; etc.,etc..I am not very familiar with Andhra-Telengana issue as much as I should be,but watching the scene in Orissa from a distance, it is an unquestionable fact that the relationship between provincial government and Koshalis is souring to the point of being toxic. My own take on this scene is that there is a powerful nexus among the ruling political elite, senior civil servants and academics both within Orissa and outside, mostly from coastal area, which determines the destiny of Orissa. The present shape of affairs is a reflection of doings of this nexus. Things were bad before, but during the regime of the present BJD party things have become worse. Just look at couple of instances. All recently centrally funded institutions of higher education minus one, such as,IIT, NISER, AIMS,Law University,Power Management Center and what not have been located in a narrow corridor between Puri and Cuttack.Even after all assurances, fate of ES
CI medical college in Rourkela is still far from settled. There is rear guard attempts from the nexus to locate it in BBSR. Often the untenable and feeble argument is advanced that because there is an airport in BBSR, all these august institutions must be located there. Now talking of the airport, though the central airport authority wants to develop the airport in Jharsuguda, Orissa government is actively blocking the project just because the central authorities want an extra 41 acres ! So the whole project is languishing on paper. Koshalis were told that in the next five year plan, centrally funded institutions would be located in Koshal area. Guess what. The recently announced world class university in the next five year plan is already earmarked for BBSR with Naveen Babu?s personal intervention ! So much for sincerity ! These are but a few examples.
Because of similar situations, Jharkhand to the north and Chhattisgarh to the west have already been carved from from Bihar and Madhya Pradesh respectively. Now Telengana to the south is about to happen. So the current dynamics is towards formation of separate state of Koshal. The language card against such an event won?t work because it did not work in the case of Uttaranchal,Chhattisgarh or Jharkhand, or for that matter, in the case of forthcoming Telengana. Besides, Koshalis claim that their language is different from Odia, and they want it to be recognised as such in the eighth schedule, just as Kankanis or Maithilis are demanding. Secondly, smallness of the proposed Koshal will not be a deterrent because there are already smaller states within India. the two major national parties,Congress and BJP, are already in record for favouring smaller states.Thirdly,would it be economically viable ? Sure it would. As of now, Koshal contributes far more than what it gets to the tre
asury of Orissa. Koshal is bountiful in natural resources, and royalties from these resources are supporting the enrichment of the coastal area. Fourthly,would it be politically ready ? Well, it will be more ready than when Orissa was formed in all counts. Fifthly, what about governance ? and Naxalite threats ? Well, staying in Orissa did not diminish the encroachment of Naxalites, did it ? Koshalis will deal with this menace as Telengana would. Then hopefully Orissa would have better chance to manage its southern border than it is doing now.
So let us wait the release of Sri Krishna commission report to be released on January 6. If it recommends Telingana to be separate, it will hasten the formation of Koshal. If not, Koshal will still be a separate state, albeit it will take a little longer. But no matter what, my fervent hope is that transition to separate statehood of Koshal will be as amicable as between Bihar and and Jharkhand, between U.P. and Uttaranchal, and between M.P. and Chhattisgargh. But just having a few institutions of higher learning will not solve Koshal?s problem. Lot of serious challanges lie ahead. To upgrade the human resource to the level of the average in India is a massive task. ...... But it is no use counting the chicks before they are hatched. So brace yourself for some excitement in 2011.
Regards
Arjun Purohit
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What more people like you sitting in Canada can do else ?? Going to the telelangana development forum website, read their FAQ page and exactly make a simiar report with reasons replacing Telangana with your so called Koshal state and send it to various group.
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It is really funny you prepared an anology of Telangana and Koshala and yet admit you don't know much about Telengana. Really interesting !
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Can you and other so called Kosalites please share what you have done for the case of ESIC M&H including your bunch of ignorants?associates ( that? you have been mentoring and?acting as?the chief advisor there )? ?
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Man, you even didn't bother to sign the petition for that when it was running 1 year back and yet you come back with blaming others.
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The way you have written about World Class University , I guess?either Kapil Sibal or Naveen Patnaik called you to let you know that World Class University for Odisha is finalized at BBSR and it was personally requested by Naveen Patnaik to be at BBSR.? Man, you should be a Movie Director. Believe me you will break all the records in Hollywood.
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Lastly, may be I am too young to suggest, please don't make?FUN of yourself. Rather when you blame and show seriousness about a problem in writing , be ready to work for it and support who work for it.? Educate your fellow brothers ( including Ornetters ) with your wisdom. Don't misguide others and spread wrong information.?
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This should be?yours New Year's Agenda , IMHO. Happy new years !
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Prashant K Sahoo
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Subject: [Ornet] Challenges for 2011
To: "OTN" <oriss...@googlegroups.com>, or...@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 3:21 PM
Greetings for the new year.
What is happening in Telengana should and must be a concern for Orissans. Sri Krishna report is already tendered, and though the entire report will be released on January 6, the whisper is that the report will favour formation of Telengana as a separate state. Not surprisingly, the anticipation of the release of the report is causing lot of excitement in Koshal area. It is because Telengana case is as identical as can be in the case of Koshal area in Orissa. Both, Telengana and Koshal, are ten district each; both cite of utter neglect from their home provinces; both claim coastal region gobble up lion?s share of resources leaving little for their development; both claim lack of adequate governance resulting in Naxalite penetration; both have massive illiteracy and poverty as compared to coastal area; both feel that under current political arrangement, development of their region is hampered; both feel that normal ways of petitioning or providing?
logical arguments for equitable treatment are simply pushed aside; etc.,etc..I am not very familiar with Andhra-Telengana issue as much as I should be,but watching the scene in Orissa from a distance, it is an unquestionable fact that the relationship between provincial government and Koshalis is souring to the point of being toxic. My own take on this scene is that there is a powerful nexus among the ruling political elite, senior civil servants and academics both within Orissa and outside, mostly from coastal area, which determines the destiny of Orissa. The present shape of affairs is a reflection of doings of this nexus. Things were bad before, but during the regime of the present BJD party things have become worse. Just look at couple of instances. All recently? centrally funded institutions of higher education minus one, such as,IIT, NISER, AIMS,Law University,Power Management Center and what not have been located in a narrow corridor between?
Puri and Cuttack.Even after all assurances, fate of ESCI medical college in Rourkela is still far from settled. There is rear guard attempts from the nexus to locate it in BBSR. Often the untenable and feeble argument? is advanced that because there is an airport in BBSR, all these august institutions must be located there. Now talking of the airport, though the central airport authority wants to develop the airport in Jharsuguda, Orissa government is actively blocking the project just because the central authorities want an extra 41 acres ! So the whole project is languishing on paper. Koshalis were told that in the next five year plan, centrally funded institutions would be located in Koshal area. Guess what. The recently announced world class university in the next five year plan is already earmarked for BBSR with Naveen Babu?s personal intervention ! So much for sincerity ! These are but a few examples.
?
Because of similar situations, Jharkhand to the north and Chhattisgarh to the west have already been carved from from Bihar and Madhya Pradesh respectively. Now Telengana to the south is about to happen. So the current dynamics is towards formation of separate state of Koshal. The language card against such an event won?t work because it did not work in the case of Uttaranchal,Chhattisgarh or Jharkhand, or for that matter, in the case of forthcoming Telengana. Besides, Koshalis claim that their language is different from Odia, and they want it to be recognised as such in the eighth schedule, just as Kankanis or Maithilis are demanding. Secondly, smallness of the proposed Koshal will not be a deterrent because there are already smaller states within India. the two major national parties,Congress and BJP, are already in record for favouring smaller states.Thirdly,would it be economically viable ? Sure it would. As of now, Koshal contributes far more than
what it gets to the treasury of Orissa. Koshal is bountiful in natural resources, and royalties from these resources are supporting the enrichment of the coastal area. Fourthly,would it be politically ready ? Well, it will be more ready than when Orissa was formed in all counts. Fifthly, what about governance ? and Naxalite threats ? Well, staying in Orissa did not diminish the encroachment of Naxalites, did it ? Koshalis will deal with this menace as Telengana would. Then hopefully Orissa would have better chance to manage its southern border? than it is doing now.
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So let us wait the release of Sri Krishna commission report to be released on January 6. If it recommends Telingana to be separate, it will hasten the formation of Koshal. If not, Koshal will still be a separate state, albeit it will take a little longer. But no matter what, my fervent hope is that transition to separate statehood of Koshal will be as amicable as between Bihar and and Jharkhand, between U.P. and Uttaranchal, and between M.P. and Chhattisgargh.? But just having a few institutions of higher learning will not solve Koshal?s problem. Lot of serious challanges lie ahead. To upgrade the human resource to the level of the average in India is a massive task. ...... But it is no use counting the chicks before they are hatched. So brace yourself for some excitement in 2011.
Regards
Arjun Purohit???
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Haribolo,
In my village, people are still poor. Should I cliam for a new state? Or I should ask for a new country? Just confused as how to proceed..
Thanks,
Haribolo..
Suvendu Kumar Mishra
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Dear Arjun Babu:
We understand your anger, frustration,sorrow, suffering for the neglected people, but we are with you with no less pain and feeling.Let me make a few remarks to share your thoughts and to mitigate nighmares.:
First, Surya Narayan Das(h) was at G.M. College in the Commerce Department while I was serving at Burla.He helped us offer a course on Industrial Management for Burla Engineering students.
Second, I am very proud of the gentlemen you have referred. They are proud of India, not just of Koshal Particularly, we are very proud that Robin Purohit who may become the best CEO of a pioneering Computer company HP. I do not think any one will go back to Koshal to serve there. They should not. People who had left for India to serve there had come after being frustrated in India.As you have pointed that today it is a global village. You can do more things from any place, thanks to advancement of communications and computer technolgy.You can help Koshal,We would look forward to your contribution.Poor people exist every where ,with illiteracy, disease,and poverty. They need us.All intellectuals are parliamentarians of the world.
Third, you do not know Koshal, if created, will not undergo a further division as it is happening elsewhere.
There is a hidden hand to weaken and destabilize India. Several NGOs and many NROs have formed a bee line to make India a banana state.
Fourth, when I said about our journalist, I mean well educated, well experienced, not just university diplomas. Ravindranath Tagore did not had a college degree, but he was the greatest.He guided India like Mohanlal Gandhi. Gandhi retorted Winston Churchill that our anarchy is ours , not yours.But they did not think that India would be taken away by corrupt,inept bureaucrats, legislators, and Chief Judges.When Lalu Yadav was asked by a Japanese journalist what he would do if he were made Prime Minister of Japan. He, replied Yadav, would make it Bihar( just a joke). But Bodh Gaya has more potholes than all combined pot holes in India.
Fifth. Odisha needs a reorganization of districts to balance the developments and governance. For example, Dhenkanal should merge with Cuttack as in Cuttack Court you find more people from Dhehnkanal than from Cuttack.Poor late Jaikrushna Misra ( our PG Hostel Superintendent) would ask his wife to start cooking after the Dhenkanal train arrived in and departed from Cuttack station.
Sixth. It is nice to know scholars are engaged in research in history, language, and literature, and culture of Koshal. There should be a separate departments in our universities to deal with it.
Finally, please accept my apology should I have not addressed your concern, but we are with you.
Regards,
Nirode Mohanty
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I do not know why my very dear Lalu did not address me personally, out of respect for him,my rejoinder will also be impersonal. I simply do not how I failed him. If I have committed any grievous error, may I be forgiven ?
After Jalianwalabag,Gandhi demanded that British leave India soon,as soon as possible,lock stock and barrel. British said that without them India would not survive because of lack of experience of running the country;it would be disaster for India. India survived, and after series of mishaps,it found its feet. Today, in spite of all difficulties, it has maintained democracy and rising as a super star. In all these arguments, there is a persistent underestimation of potential Koshal in looking after itself, as if there is congenital deficiency among Koshalis. Another Ornettor used to propagate some time ago that Koshalis are suffering because they are lazy. These are tantamount to racial prejudice. May I remind folks that the first administrative college was headed by Surya Kumar Pujari in Hirakud to train OAS officers. Throughout the history of Orissa, brilliant administrators in academia as well as civil service have come out from Koshal area. Rajendra Narayan Singhdeo is
regarded by most as one of the most competent Chief Ministers of Orissa. We do have at present many able Koshali IAS and IPS officers, but not as many as we like. Lalu may remember Surya Babu( Can?t remember his last name) from Koshal was the first Orissan Ph,D in business administration, which incidentally was from Washington University in late fifties or early sixties. Dr.Debasis Pujari is current head of the department of management in McMaster University in Canada. Dr.Subhankar Nayak(my grand son), a Ph.D. from Yale, is currently Research Professor in Finance in Waterloo Lutheran University in Canada. Another Dr.Pujari,an IAS and a Ph.D.from Boston is currently in Planning Commission in New Delhi. He used to come to Harvard during summer to teach courses in Developmental Economics. is brother Dr.Arun Pujari is Vice Chancellor of Sambalpur University and is well known for instituting innovative programs and institutes. Mr. Patel is a High Court judge in Orissa. Sorry to
toot my horn, my son Robin Purohit is a senior vice president of Hewlett Packard.These are but few examples. Given access and and opportunities, Koshalis can be equal to any in the world stage. It would be presumptuous to say that potential Koshal will not have horrendous problems ahead.We certainly will have of lack of good governance over the years by Orissa government resulting in spread of Naxalites and administrative mess in the area among other things. We would need lots of help from many quarters. However given time and good leadership, we can not only survive but we can excel.
Orissa is endowed with best of natural resources, which would be envy of any province in India. Yet it is one of the poorest and most illiterate. We have made a mess of things because we are cursed by our own failings.We have lacked vision and we never knew how to appreciate what we have. I squarely blame the leadership in the coastal area so called intellectuals,mandarins and political leadership which dominated Orissa governance since its inception. Constant bickering, infighting,not recognising what is essential and what is peripheral,massive corruption, not bothering to address fundamental issues such as upgrading human resources at every level, not being able to create an ambiance to make Orissa a destination for manufacturing industries, depending on mineral resources as the major source of revenue, and above all not bothering to develop a cohesive ambiance throughout the province by being honest with people and developing trust....... I can go on and on. What do you th
ink the province will do when all the minerals will be depleted as they must some day? Ever wonder why many provinces with no minerals are doing better than us ? How Orissa ever catch with the rest of India with the present state of affairs in every level of education, with lack of teachers every where ? Recently Orissa have over focussed in getting IIT, NISER etc. from the center. Would Orissa students from ill equipped institutions be able to compete for paces in these places ? I have been harping on these stuff for years but the entire education system has been deteriorating.
So why blame Koshal to be out of Orissa ? Being tagged with Orissa has meant being poorer in every indices even in Orissan standard. We have reached the bottom; there is no room below to go. And I do not see any change in thinking, the same old Mantras which have been proved to be wrong. Blaming the center for all our failings have become monotonous. Lalu blames the center for higher salaries mandated by the center. Were they so vengeful that they did so just to Orissa but to no other province?
I repeat again. If Koshalis would have been given the same opportunities and access,and our concerns would have been given diligent attention, then there would not been any demand for separation. Since there is no change, obviously the status quo will prevail. That certainly is unacceptable to us. If we make a mess of things, that will be our doing; Orissa will not be responsible.
Arjun Purohit
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So many learned and wise persons expressing views in support of Koshala, and no thoughts on why Koshala will turn out to be different from Odisha, Jharkhand, Chhatisgarh, Madhya Pradesh in the level of dishonesty and corruption. Where are the visions of new style of governance? Will the wise electorate elect wise legislators? Will a new generation of IAS officers run the place? New police and new judiciary?
So please dream on, but only after serious thought is devoted to the quality of governance. In fact worldwide experience suggests that an abundance of natural resources will nurture more corruption, rather than less. Just look at the clutch of African states, South American States, so rich, but so bathed in blood --- think 'Blood Diamonds'.
So much blame heaped on Odisha government. Until just a couple of years ago the centrally dictated salary scales devoured all of the state budget and more, leaving nothing for investment in improving governance, or investment in anything. The state survived from the central and international aid for the natural disasters --- floods, droughts, cyclones etc.
In times of distress it is so much easier to point at scapegoats, sometimes one person, sometimes a whole class or caste, rather than spend some time in meditation, introspection and navel gazing, to improve governance. The list of scapegoats to blame gets longer every decade. First it was the British; then it was the Rajas; then it was the ICS; then IAS; then the coastal people. But sooner or later the finger has to be pointed at the mirror.
If you have not already done so, do read "The Lexus an d the Olive Tree" by Thomas Friedman. The world has changed in the last 15 years. The internet Is exerting an equalising, globalising, internationalising influence worlwide. There is a democratisation of concepts of finance, capital movement, and of prosperity. If the goal of a separate Koshala is prosperity of the people, then do dream about how to plug into the internet on a mass scale, and participate in the global prosperity. If Thailand and Malaysia can do it, and Vietnam is doing it, Gujerat and Andhra are, so can Odisha, without a split. Just what is the benefit of splitting one bottom of the heap poor state into two bottom of the heap poorly governed states?
Lalu Mansinha
matriculated from Chandrasekhar Zilla School, Sambalpur
I.Sc from Gangadhar Meher College, Sambalpur
At 05:06 PM 11-01-03, Prashant Sahoo wrote:
Sunil bAbu,
>> But, people from Berhampur hardly complain about it.
I think that is everywhere except few coastal belt districts. Awareness among people is very poor in Odisha ( of course that is due to lack of proper education and few other factors as well ). Infact people of Odisha consider it is normal to be poor and not to complain. This is exactly like corruption has become part of a normal day today activities.
>> Looking at all this, CM is trying to help all regions but Berhampur.
Perhaps you are not correct. Every region except eastern , say the same.
Prashant K Sahoo
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Subject: Re: [Ornet] A Note on Division of Odisha( Continued)
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Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 4:41 PM
Subhas Babu.
We met at OSACAL 2010. Your analysis is to the point on Berhampur.
Irony is that our CM ( with all respect to him ) is elected form Berhampur vicinity i.e Hinjili.
But, people from Berhampur hardly complain about it. We fought for IIT in Berhampur.
That went to BBSR. In stead, Berhampur got a new government engineering college.
Looking at all this, CM is trying to help all regions but Berhampur. That is OK . We can wait.
Future can bring that region something good. Who knows?
Happy New Year
Regards,
Sunil
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Subject: Re: [Ornet] A Note on Division of Odisha( Continued)
In the context of Mr. Nirode Mohanty's comments of combining different districts.
1. We have 100 counties/districts in North Carolina. These service units were created 200 years ago based on distance: i.e., the distance that can be covered by horse in a day (which is about 30 miles). By that standard, our subdivisions should be a district.
2. Administrative units are designed to provide better service to people. By combining Sambalpur, Bolangir etc., we may be saving money but we are punishing poor people who have to travel farther at more cost.
3. Now with the prevalence of motor bikes (unfortunately too many accidents), people can navigate easily in matter of hours if the districts are smaller.
4, I feel Angul is still too big a district. I know this because I am from Dhenkanal district.
5. If we want to save money, which is desirable, each subdivision should be a district, each sub-collector should be a collector and each sub-division head quarters should be district head quarters. This way we can eliminate the posts of collector, SP, District judge etc, for each head of the sub-division becomes head of the district. This will also eliminate the cost of building new head quarters.
6. People will live a short distance from the head quarters and will thus get better service.
7. I am going to all over Odisha every year, but I have not yet found a major steel plant, a major Engineering College, A regional Engineering College, A major medical college, a Major dam, a major sports college, a Major Engineering university (BPUT), and a major general university outside the Sambalpur-Sundargarh-Bolangir region. If we extend this to KBK, it also includes the Central University, HAL and NAVAL ORDNANCE. All these, excluding the numerous private colleges, schools etc. In 2010 I heard the chatter that the High court is going to open branches/benches in Sambalpur and Berhampur. I am sure I have missed out on a few other notables, SO MUCH ABOUT HOW THE KBK AREA IS BEING NEGLECTED.
8. There are three major Administrative zones (called revenue zones with a RDC for each zone) in Odisha: Cuttack, Berhampur, Sambalpur. For all practical purposes, the RDC office can be construed as a mini-secretariat.
9. Taking every thing into consideration, it would appear that the Berhampur zone is actually neglected the most.
9. I do not know how the MLAs and MPs are apportioned (based on area or population), but I am sure the Sambalpur region has its fare share of representation. But these representatives are so mute that they can not compete in the fields of state or national politics. HENCE THE DEMAND FOR A NEW STATE.This will allow these ineffective people to build their on fiefdom. How long are we going to practice the "warlord politics" in Odisha?
Subhas Mohapatra
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Subject: Re: [Ornet] A Note on Division of Odisha( Continued)
To: or...@lists.cs.columbia.edu, Moha...@aol.com
Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 9:15 AM
Mohanty bAbu,
I appreciate your professional approach in writing against someone's divisive mindset which is full of excuses when it comes back to deliver something or contirbuting by collaborating or by himself in fixing or improving the system.
Now coming back to your emails, you have completely agreed that there are negligence and lack of development to other districts of Odisha including Mayurbhanj, Koraput etc. etc.
While I appreciate your VOICE on this specific chain of emails and subject, may I ask you , why do you keep a mum like a Silent Spectator when case based issues related to negligence or wrong decisions are raised based on various cases in Odisha which contributes to your present agreement in ORNET ?
I mean why don't you consider your voice's presence that time ? Of course it is your choice but I found indirect inconsistency when you say something. This is my personal observation whicy you may differ to.
I never saw you write emails raising your voice in supporting those cases but yet I am surprised you expect others to contribute to this thread because it talks of division.
My 20 cents.
Prashant K Sahoo
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Subject: [Ornet] A Note on Division of Odisha( Continued)
To: or...@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 11:22 AM
Dear Arjun Babu:
Juhar, a tradition of Balasore. To make our relationship strong and sweet, please allow me to add a few remarks as a response to your letter.Your letter, kind, gracious, courteous,and fraught with frustration and jettisoned with neglect,would hurt our late Chief Minister Rajerndra Singh Deo of Bolangir, B of KBK, late Chief Minister Sadasiv Tripathy of Koraput, K of KBK, and late MP Anup Singh Deo of Kalahandi, K of KBK,among others.Late Rajendra Babu had spent all his life to unite Odia speaking areas with Orissa through Utkal Sammelani, aligning with Madhu Babu, a tribute paid to Madhu Babu in our 2005 OSA Journal.
You cannot draw a line in the Mahanadi water, you cannot say I am a less Sambalpuri, you cannot refute Gangadhar Meher's Tapaswini is not a gem of Odia literture, cannot disown my relatives from Sundargarh who have blended with Balasoris, a capital of mosquitos and malaria, and cannot isolate our Mayurbhanj lady S from our perfect gentleman S of Kalahandi.
The problem lies elsewhere and the assignment of resources is flawed for sure.The Odisha's 99% budget supports pay role of Odisha and only 1% is spent in everything else.I am not an Economist and there is no easy solutions, but a few casual observations can be made:
The pay role has increased about more than four times now from 1950 and the revenue remains same as that of 1950. Please pardon me if these numbers are wrong, not in touch with since late 50s.The revenue may be increased by increasing taxes, royalities, fares, fees and other items and also by cutting the pay role 25%. We have created a huge bureacracy.For example, there was no need to splitting Balasore into two districts. For the sake of saving the expenses, Balasore can be combined with Mayurbhanj, Keonjhar and in the same way combining Sambalpur with Sundargarh and Bolangir, eliminating extra District Magistrates. There are several Chief Engineers and then several Engineer in Chief. People are sent to rural areas on transfer, not because as a punishment, but because they have not given enough bribes.
Let me not take more bandwidth of the ORNET. I was hoping others will have something. I guess it is not worth writing. But we can open a forum on this topic.
Jai Utkal Janani.
Regards,
Nirode Mohanty
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From: Manoj Padhi <manoj...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Ornet] OTN: Andhra opposition leaders in hunger strike -
why not Odisha opposition leaders
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Dear readers:
This is a good news - but both Congress and BJD are confusing people and
they are not clear on their demands.
Congress MP should have urged the visiting Central team to release more
funds, like Chandrababu Naidu did.
In stead he asked loan waiver up to Rs. 50K from the poor state Government.
It is interesting to note that, in stead of offering "lemon juice" to MP
Shri Majhi, BJD is asking them to shift the hunger strike to Delhi.
If we draw a parallel with Andhra, the CM should be in a hunger strike to
get more funds from centre..
Nevertheless - I am glad to note that political leaders are getting ready to
fast for people, whatever may be the intent behind such fasting.
Thanks
Manoj Padhi
*Indian Express reported:*
The hunger strike led by OPYC president and MP Pradeep Majhi, entered the
third day on the New Year's day as the state government remained silent.
"As the state government was yet to respond to our demands, OPYC had asked
its district units to launch relay hunger strikes in district level," Majhi
said adding that the agitation could be extended up to block and panchayat
levels if the state government did not announce loan waiver upto Rs 50,000
for the small and marginal farmers.
Besides demanding loan waiver, OPYC had launched its hunger strike on
December 30 seeking enhancement of compensation for the affected farmers,
inclusion of seven coastal districts in the list of affected areas, crop
insurance to peasants and other benefits.
The ruling BJD yesterday had asked OPYC to shift its hunger strike agitation
to Delhi < http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Delhi> accusing the
centre of neglecting the state.
Read more: 5 youth Cong activists on hunger strike hospitalised - The Times
of India< http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhubaneswar/5-youth-Cong-activists-on-hunger-strike-hospitalised/articleshow/7202013.cms#ixzz19nwFyd00 >
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On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Manoj Padhi <manoj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear readers:
>
> Due to 5 days of unexpected unseasonal rain , several Odia farmers lost
> their paddy crops, which were cut but lying on the field for final stage
> production of paddy.
>
> Estimated loss as reported by collectors: 50 per cent loss on around 12
> lakh hectares of crop area under both paddy and non-paddy due to the effect
> of heavy cyclonic rain
>
> The CM visited and saw the loss
>
> Farmers asked for Rs. 20000 per hectare as compensation; the Government is
> ready to give them Rs. 2000/- per hectare.
>
> CM announced 900 crore @ Rs. 2000/- per hectare.
>
> What is surprising is the quality of opposition leaders in Odisha ?
>
> I have not heard any statement from State BJP president Shri Jual Oram and
> Congress President Shri K.P.Singdeo.
>
> I guess they are afraid to follow suit their Andhra peers - Shri
> Chandrababu Naidu and Jagan - who are both making national News.
>
> We already knew about the quality of Governance; but we also now know about
> the quality of opposition leaders we have. They always fail to cease an
> initiative to strike even though they are given enough openings by BJD
> Government.
>
> Thanks
> Manoj Padhi
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Subject: [Ornet] Happy New Year Wish - Sharing Some New Year
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Dear Ornet Friends
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Greetings!
I and my family wishes all of you a very happy and
prosperous new year (attached image).
May this year bring the best in you for the service of the
mankind, for the success of all your good deeds and for the sanctity of your thoughts
and deeds!
Happy New Year!
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Here I share some of my New Year resolution items that I
have thought for myself on the topic ?media, madness, morality and mediation?.
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Media, madness, morality and mediation
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Media
Newspapers, radio, TV, bloggers etc. most of the time
publish their own views, perceptions, not facts and sometimes completely
deviating from the facts to attract the attention. It had happened in 1984
during Burla Engineering College crisis. I would not like to narrate the story
as it would be long, but just share my views with fellow Ornetters that one must
verify the facts and allegations
accurately before taking any steps against anybody and before creating any
crisis with strong emotions.
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Madness
Madness is spread by the media quickly and people that are
unable to get facts first hand believe in media and start expressing their
emotions immediately in a very destructive way. They burn Govt. properties,
they stop many important activities and they create both physical and emotional
trauma for many innocent people, who have no role in anything.
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One person spreads the lie, media magnifies that and some
uncontrolled minds pick up on those to cause destruction. The madness is
spread, innocent people become victims and everybody loses.Now-a-days because
of the internet, this madness is spread at a greater speed with different
internet manifestations, mailing lists and cheap ?.com? websites.
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I share my views with fellow Ornetters that one must think
twice before putting any negative comment on anybody by reading a third person?s
story or listening from another ignorant person. ?He said, she said, they said?
must always be avoided and facts must be known exactly on who said. ?I heard,
she heard, he heard?, must be avoided and facts must be known exactly on who
heard what from whom and when. We must go for exact and if exact is impossible,
then facts within 1% confidence level.
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Morality
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All the people do have a responsibility to practice morality
before engaging themselves in destructive activities and jumping to conclusions
too soon. Exact and accurate fact finding must be done before putting
provocative and aggravating comments on anything. It is like when the whole
village cries because ?BulA marigalA? or ?Bula is dead? without verifying the
fact what that Bula was, the village priest?s son or the village head?s dog.
In my opinion all of us do have the moral obligation to
judge the facts with objectivity removing any bias. Removing bias is difficult,
but possible.
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Mediations
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Proper mediation is important to resolve the conflicts
between individuals. However, mediation does not work when artificial problems
are created because of people that have mental health problems due to certain
deficiencies in their life, i.e., lack of love and job satisfaction,
unemployment, inferiority feeling, loss of loved ones, shock from misdeeds of
dear ones or physical health problems etc. These people take leadership in
destructive activities without keeping any scope for mediation.
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Mediation also does not work when the conflict is between
two educated individual adults, husband and wife, friends, father and son,
mother-in-law and daughter-in-law etc., unless those individuals go through
their own soul searching and try to live in healthy relationships. It has been
observed that at times, one who starts mediating becomes the enemy of both
parties.
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Sometimes it is better to end the relationships and live
happily ever after than having everyday episode of unhealthy, abusive
encounters. Life is too short and people do have the right to happiness. Why
waste time if the relationship does not work.
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This is applicable both in personal as well as
organizational/social relationships. It is OK to say ?NO? and move far away
than say ?YES? and have a miserable life. It is also OK to not become too
perfect that there is no empty space left to be filled up.
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In Conclusion
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The above are just my personal views for sharing only. You
all have a choice to use if you like and trash if you dislike.
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Let us just do that. Choose the right thing that suits us without
harming another person.
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Have a Happy New Year!
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Sincerely,
Bigyani Das
Dayton, Maryland, USA
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I find there is a genuine crying from Mr Purohit. He is right when he
says that western part of Orissa has sent good number of IAS officers,
politicians and educationists and efficient people in all walks of
life yet there is a need of a separate state and that is Kosala
because there is underdevelopment and their money is being spent in
Cuttack.
(Cuttack means rest of Sambalpur, Bolangir and Sundergarh and
kalahandi as I had perceived during my stint at Sambalpur for three
years though people from Puri are exempt from this bracket).
Development of a place depends on education of people in that area,
leadership and management of resources. The subsequent two points
heavily depend upon generating positive leadership and proper
mentoring.
Coming to education, English education became popular in thirties of
19th century during the time of Lord Willium Bentick. Those who
studied a bit of English became VVIPs and a creamy layer was created
with the British Administration. Their wards became aspirants to get
closer to administration and the educated class mindset thus became
completely government employment oriented. These people are always
loyal to their masters. It is because of this reason most educated
people up to our freedom movement had opposed Independence to India.
Even many of them turned traitors as they were the beneficiaries of
British administration. Time gave us a Gandhi who used peace and
non-violence as bombs to silence the guns and dynamites. It did work,
advocates and students roped in and we got independence.
But the same selfish and highly ego-centric bureaucratic order
continued. They continued holding administration and took advantage of
inexperience of political masters. These bureaucrats were perceived to
be the top intellectuals of the country. Freedom fighters were
described as politicians and hated by these people. After independence
our best of brilliant people became baboos and refused to take
country's top responsibility of nation building considering that as a
politicians job.
Therefore highly educated people in the fifties betrayed the land and
their future generations. Country's interest was never paramount for
them. They wanted jobs, security, limited power, lesser
responsibility, high earnings and social status. With pains I share
that Jawahar Lal Nehru and Sardar Ballavbhai Patel had in September
1947 requested Lord Mountbaten to take back India's administration on
the ground that the country was yet to hold its own power. The then
educated people were yet to feel being Indians then and suffering from
narrow and selfish mindset.This mindset continues even today.
The foundation of the country had to be from the villages. But bricks
are now being thrown from Delhi or state capitals for laying down the
foundation. Hence there is regionalism, unequal distribution of wealth
and imbalanced development. Now million dollar question is can
division of a state will help resolve the problem of regional
imbalance?
My answer is an emphatic No.
If it happens in Kosala, only few Gauntias and rice millers, who
control the economy of Western part of Orissa, will continue to
benefit but not the people. As regards other states, situations are
no different.
Therefore the mantra is generate country leaders from the state so
that you do not beg. You remain in a position to take decisions. But
your leaders must do country centric politics. This has never happened
in Orissa.
Generate state leaders and so that you do not beg for your region.
Take your own decision. But the state leaders must consider the whole
state as their ground of activity.
Be committed to people you serve in what ever political position you
are. For running a small industry, we need an MBA graduate. But for
running the country, we are yet to attach a sense of respect for
politics as a study of management.
This can be done only when the last genre of teachers and politicians
are replaced respectively by mentors with nationalistic thinking and
people who take to politics as a subject of management. Carving out a
state is no answer at all.
Biraja Mahapatra