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From: Haji Asrul Dahari <rawo...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Jul 27, 2007 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: Salasilah Keluarga
To: Mohd Ali Mahari <rawo...@yahoo.co.uk>, Razol Mahari <razol...@gmail.com>
Cc: Mohd Ali Mahari < rawo...@yahoo.co.uk>, darmawatti dahari <dda...@yahoo.com>, Asraf Mohd Dahari <asr...@gmail.com >, "Azman Nan) Dahari" <azman...@gmail.com>, Rostam bin Malek <ar_...@yahoo.com.my>, Noraida Mahari < noraida...@wawanchi.com>, Norkamsiah Mahari <norkam...@hotmail.com>, Norbaayah Mahari < bay...@hotmail.com>, rogn...@hotmail.com, mohdzaki...@exxonmobil.com, manan...@yahoo.com.my, sherry_...@yahoo.com, Hasan Basri <has...@tm.net.my>, noreha...@hotmail.com, mra...@upsi.edu.my, shah...@yahoo.com, mha...@yahoo.com, take...@yahoo.com, de_f...@yahoo.com

ASM wr.wt.
 
With reference to my first e-mail, I would like to amend the following info, again seeking forgiveness for any other errors made.
 
Please refer to original text. Amendments and additions are in bold.
 
Our family came to Malaya about 40 years after Tuanku Imam Perang Bonjol has been defeated by the Dutch in 1838,i.e about 1878, about 129 years ago....The war with the Dutch began in 1821 was called Padre War (Perang Paderi).
 

Mohd Ali Mahari <rawo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Addressess tak complete anakanda. Pls give both - res / off.
 
As, your footnote, is that permanent.
Your particulars too, As.
 

 

Razol Mahari <razol...@gmail.com> wrote:
Assalamualaikum,
 
Pak As, great info.
 
Ajo @ Razol Mahari bin Haji Mohd. Ali
Bandar Seri Iskandar, Tronoh,
Perak.
012-9002568

 
On 7/19/07, Haji Asrul Dahari <rawo...@yahoo.co.uk > wrote:
Assalamu'alikum wr.wt.to all,
 
I am rawo_dua, Asrul, Haji Ali's, rawo_one is my first cousin. Allow me to pen down our family history/tree (one that I know).
 
On our fathers' side:
 
brothers & sisters,
 
Shaari Bin Haji Mohd Ali, (no children, adopted is Rohani, in simpang pulai,perak)Mahari Bin Haji Mohd Ali (Haji Ali's father),
Hawalaniah Bte.Haji Mohd Ali ( Bang Ha's mother- his children emails are the last four above ie, Mohd Shah, Hafiz, Yati and Eda), and
Mohamed Dahari Bin Haji Mohd Ali (my father)
 
Continuing Haji Mohd Ali's roots, Haji Mohd Ali Bin Haji Mohd Yassin Bin Panglima Omar.
(Addition) -Haji Mohd Yassin other siblings are Haji Mohamed and Hajjah Rogayah. When PanglimaOmar was killed in the Selangor Civil War, his wife (name not known) and children (3 of them) were taken to Makkah. After several years there, PanglimaOmar's wife died.Hajjah Rogayah married a Rawo (correct spelling in Indonesian Map is Rao, as highlighted by Lee) and return to Rawo. Haji Mohamed and Haji Mohd Yassin came back to Malaya. 
 
Haji Mohd Ali youngest brother is Buyong Kahar, MdZain's father (his legal name is Mohd Ramli).Md Zain is OUR UNCLE and our link to Haji Mohd Yassin roots. Haji Mohd Ali's nephews and nieces are based in Bati Tiga, Temoh,Tapah,Perak.
 
Haji Mohd Ali's wife - Hajjah Aliyah Bte.Haji Mohd Nor not Haji Mohd Basir. Haji Mohd Basir is Hajjah Aliyah's grandfather. Haji Mohd Nor Bin Haji Mohd Basir.  
 
Haji Mohd Basir's wife is Hajjah Siti Aminah ( both were from Padang Matinggi) - parents of Hajjah Sawiyah (different person because Hajjah Aliyah's mother' s name is Hajjah Siti Sawiyah Bte Omar, also different Omar), wife of Haji Mohd Yassin. Haji Mohd Yassin and Hajjah Sawiyah were married in Selama,Perak. When Haji Mohd Ali and his sister were born, they migrated to Tanjong Rambutan.
 
Haji Abdul Malik or popularly known as Haji Melaka of Gopeng,is the only brother of Hajjah Siti Aminah. He was called Haji Melaka because he came from Rawo through Malacca. He was the only one who kept in contact with the motherland.
 
Hajjah Aliyah's mother, Siti Sawiyah remarried to Haji Mohd Saman. Her sisters and brother that I know of :
 
1. Rokiah Bte Haji Mohd Saman ( mother of Hasnah Bte. Yunus- Mahari's first wife,( Hasnah is Mahari's second wife not the first)  Ahmad Bin Yunus, Mahmood B. Yunus and Idris Bin Yunus,all deceased) 
2. Shamsuddin Bin Haji Mohd Saman ( Haji Abdul Manan Manap's grandfather - mother's side) - father of Maznah, Halimah, Yaakob, Sawiyah, Azlan, Azmi, Azri and Norasyikin.
3. Saadiah Bte.Haji Mohd Saman (Saadiah's daugther,  Samiyah, is Buyong Kahar's wife, MdZain's parents) - mother of Samiyah, Kamariah ( Masri & Wak's mother); Juwiyah (Mak Su Ju wife of Kg Sengat known figure,Pak Su Doreh[Idris])
4. Amnah @ Maimunah Bte.Haji Mohd Saman ( my grandmother- mother side)
 
One of their sister, whose name I can't recall died young. Her children are,
 
Pak Tua Ahmad, the eldest of all the cousins. I had the opportunity to visit him on several occasion in Selama, Perak,( His eldest daugther is Kak Tupin, Kak Tan is in Selama and Bang Baha is Kg.Medan, Old Klang Road,His other son, I have forgetten his name); Pak Ya (Yahya, Baling, Kedah),His daughter, Mariam married to Bang Suman (Zain's eldest brother), Pak Hassan ( children are based in Taman Datuk Harun, Old Klang Road, our link is this son Yaakob) and most popular and well-known,Pak Nasir, Lawan Kuda, Gopeng)
 
My mother Nor Khadijah and my father are cousins.
 
Manan's ( nickname Jan) mother,Maznah Bte.Shamsuddin and his father Abdul Manap are also cousins. Abdul Manap and NorKhadijah are children of Amnah. Amnah's other children are: the youngest, Noor Zaiton(Her only child is Haslinda), Abdul Khalil ( based in Seremban)  and  the third Abdul Malek (Rostam<ar_rawa> father.His brother and sisters are Roszila, Rosli, Liza, Rosie, Mala and Nani) Their parents were killed in a road accident in Gopeng Town,on the 2nd day of Hari Raya many,many years back,when Rozsila was about 17-18 years old and Nani was about 4-5 years old. Rostam was in primary school then. A big test for all of us.
 
Another test that our family faced was the demise of our cousin, Andre, Haji Ali's youngest brother,in a plane crash on the Subang Airport Highway some 16 years ago.
 
Semoga Allah mencucuri rahmat ke atas mereka and mereka2 yang mendahului kita semua. Amin....
 
If you need further info on our extended family tree, feel free to ask.
 
Salam and seeking fogiveness if the above is incorrect.
 
asrul dahari
 


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Jul 27, 2007, 5:38:21 AM7/27/07
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mohd Ali Mahari <rawo...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Jul 27, 2007 8:38 AM
Subject: Haq vs Batil / Respect your Elders.
To: Haji Asrul Dahari <rawo...@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Asraf Mohd Dahari <asr...@gmail.com >, "Azman Nan) Dahari" <azman...@gmail.com>, Razol Mahari <razol...@gmail.com>, Mohamed Azli Bin Haji Asrul < rawo...@yahoo.co.uk>, "Omar Mahari Aman  Andre )" <omar_sk...@yahoo.com.sg>, Rostam bin Malek < ar_...@yahoo.com.my>, mohdzaki...@exxonmobil.com, manan...@yahoo.com.my, mra...@upsi.edu.my, Azril Mahari bin Haji Mohd Ali <orochi...@yahoo.com>, Rizal Mahari bin Haji Mohd Ali <marang...@yahoo.com >, Zarol Mahari bin Haji Mohd Ali <xza...@hotmail.com>, Darmawatti Dahari <darmawat...@hotmail.com>, Hadi Harun < hadi...@yahoo.com>, Muhammad Haikal Hafi Harun <stitch...@yahoo.com>, "Hjh.Asma Laili Asrul" < asma_...@yahoo.com>, Idahayati Md Dahari <idha...@tm.com.my>, Noraidah Mahari <noraida...@gmail.com>, Norbayah Mahari Young < bay...@hotmail.com>, Norehan Ahmad <noreha...@hotmail.com>, Norkamsiah Mahari < norkam...@hotmail.com>, rosemayat...@cimb.com, Roseshazila Abdul Latif <shazi...@yahoo.com.sg>, Shereena Basree < s_ba...@yahoo.com>, Zakir Basree <za...@promotheus.com.my>

Waalaikum mussalam wm/bt.
 
Thanks As ( Haji Asrul bin Mohamed Dahari ),
 
You just cleared the grey area where Mak Ngah ( my mother ) & CheDa Hasnah ( Mak Ngah used to relate to Kak Wook's mother ) are concerned.
 
I have never doubted you before and Abang Ali knows that at our age, we must live by the Islamic ethic of -  Firman Allah swt : "Dan Janganlah Kamu Campur Adukkan Yang HAQ Itu Dengan Yang BATIL, Dan Kamu Sembunyikan Yang Benar Itu Pula, Padahal Kamu Semua Mengetahuinya."
(Al-Baqarah : 42)

The other man apart from my father, in our Rawo family that will always inspired me, during his life time, is my late Uncle, Ar-Marhum Mohamed Dahari bin Haji Mohd Ali. The true Malay warrior who fought for the freedom of Malaya. Who never kowtow to the British nor the Chinese.
 
Arwah Pak Anjang ( Captain Mahyuddin ) once quote: We need more people like Buyung ( Dahari ).
 
Hope to have a copy of his memoire, soon.
 
Semoga Allah swt mencucuri rahmat and tempatkan arwah serta keluarga kita, yang telah kembali ke rahmatullah, bersama para solihin.
 
The way he respected his elders and treated his brothers is a practised of the old. I too felt the treatment to myself in a very special way.
 
In order for the Rawo clan to be united this should be practised, adat orang Timor, not neglected, just because the Western Culture are more enjoyable (banyak hiburan - na'uzubillah) & more conveniance.
 
That is the reason why, I addressed Mohd Ramli Buyung Kahar ( though he is 5 to 6 years younger - correct if I'm wrong, pls ) as Pak Zain, because he is our fathers' 1st.cousin.
 
Wassalam,
 
Abang Ali.
Haji Mohd Ali bin Mahari.

Razol Mahari

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From: Norehan Ahmad <noreha...@hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 27, 2007 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Salasilah Keluarga
To: rawo...@yahoo.co.uk, razol...@gmail.com, rawo...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: dda...@yahoo.com, asr...@gmail.com, azman...@gmail.com, ar_...@yahoo.com.my, noraida...@wawanchi.com, norkam...@hotmail.com, bay...@hotmail.com , rogn...@hotmail.com, mohdzaki...@exxonmobil.com, manan...@yahoo.com.my , sherry_...@yahoo.com, has...@tm.net.my, mra...@upsi.edu.my, pai...@pnb.com.my, shah...@yahoo.com, mha...@yahoo.com, take...@yahoo.com, de_f...@yahoo.com

My dear relatives,

So eager to know about our roots and finally at the age of 54++ I get to
know a liittle about our family's  geneology. I am one of Allahyarham Ahmad
bin Mohd Yunus's daughter Norehan and below are my family members:-
Children of Dato' Ahmad bin Mohd Yunus and Hjh Zalikha bt Moh Naseh ( May
god's blessings be upon their souls) -  7 daughters and 2 sons
1.Hjh Fatimah Rawiah (hsewife)
2. Ahmad Nazri - deceased
3.Hjh Sapiah (hsewife)
4.Datuk Hjh Zainun Aishah (daughter)
5.Hjh  Maznah (hsewife)
6. Datuk Hjh Zakiah (daughter) KSU Kekkwa
7.Hjh Norehan Ahmad (lecturer in UiTM)
8.Ahmad Mazlan (self employed)
9 Azlina Ahmad (free lance writer)

I really want to know more about our forefathers before they came to Malaya.
Who were they? Can anyone help me out on this just want to know where we
inherit some of our inherent and intinsic characteristics - were they
warriors, of royal descent etc.Please someone come out with a book and we
all can congregate to launch the book.

Sedekah Al- Fatihah to all our late parents, uncles and aunties, brothers
and sisters others and to all Muslimahs who have return to rahmatullah.
Amin.

Wassalam,
Yan (Norehan Ahmad)
016-2863348 (hp)
03-79622013 (off)


>From: Mohd Ali Mahari < rawo...@yahoo.co.uk>
>To: Razol Mahari <razol...@gmail.com>,  Haji Asrul Dahari
><rawo...@yahoo.co.uk>
>CC: Mohd Ali Mahari <rawo...@yahoo.co.uk>,  darmawatti dahari
><dda...@yahoo.com>,  Asraf Mohd Dahari < asr...@gmail.com>,  "Azman Nan)
>Dahari" <azman...@gmail.com>,  Rostam bin Malek <ar_...@yahoo.com.my >,
>Noraida Mahari <noraida...@wawanchi.com>,  Norkamsiah Mahari
><norkam...@hotmail.com>,  Norbaayah Mahari < bay...@hotmail.com>,
>rogn...@hotmail.com,  mohdzaki...@exxonmobil.com ,
>manan...@yahoo.com.my,  sherry_...@yahoo.com, Hasan Basri
><has...@tm.net.my >,  noreha...@hotmail.com, mra...@upsi.edu.my,
>pai...@pnb.com.my,   shah...@yahoo.com, mha...@yahoo.com,
>take...@yahoo.com,  de_f...@yahoo.com
>Subject: Re: Salasilah Keluarga
>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:07:30 +0100 (BST)

>
>Addressess tak complete anakanda. Pls give both - res / off.
>
>   As, your footnote, is that permanent.
>   Your particulars too, As.
>
>
>
>
>Razol Mahari <razol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>     Assalamualaikum,
>
>   Pak As, great info.
>
>   Ajo @ Razol Mahari bin Haji Mohd. Ali
>   Bandar Seri Iskandar, Tronoh,
>   Perak.
>   012-9002568
>
>
>   On 7/19/07, Haji Asrul Dahari <rawo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Assalamu'alikum wr.wt.to all,
>
>   I am rawo_dua, Asrul, Haji Ali's, rawo_one is my first cousin. Allow me
>to pen down our family history/tree (one that I know).
>
>   On our fathers' side:
>
>   brothers & sisters,
>
>   Shaari Bin Haji Mohd Ali, (no children, adopted is Rohani, in simpang
>pulai,perak)Mahari Bin Haji Mohd Ali (Haji Ali's father),
>   Hawalaniah Bte.Haji Mohd Ali ( Bang Ha's mother- his children emails are
>the last four above ie, Mohd Shah, Hafiz, Yati and Eda), and
>   Mohamed Dahari Bin Haji Mohd Ali (my father)
>
>   Continuing Haji Mohd Ali's roots, Haji Mohd Ali Bin Haji Mohd Yassin Bin
>Panglima Omar.
>
>   Haji Mohd Ali youngest brother is Buyong Kahar, MdZain's father (his
>legal name is Mohd Ramli).Md Zain is OUR UNCLE and our link to Haji Mohd
>Yassin roots. Haji Mohd Ali's nephews and nieces are based in Bati Tiga,
>Temoh,Tapah,Perak.
>
>   Haji Mohd Ali's wife - Hajjah Aliah Bte. Haji Mohd Basir

>
>   Hajjah Aliyah's mother, Siti Sawiyah remarried to Haji Mohd Saman. Her
>sisters and brother that I know of :
>
>   1. Rokiah Bte Haji Mohd Saman ( mother of Hasnah Bte. Yunus- Mahari's
>first wife, Ahmad Bin Yunus, Mahmood B. Yunus and Idris Bin Yunus,all
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Jul 31, 2007, 3:11:22 AM7/31/07
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Dear Razol,
 
Nanti take ou from the list the following:
as not family.
 
Along Wati


Razol Mahari <razol...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Jul 31, 2007, 8:37:40 PM7/31/07
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ok. thanks for the info along wati.

On 7/31/07, darmawatti dahari <dda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Razol,
 
Nanti take ou from the list the following:
ii)paisol@pnb.com.my
>Tupin, Kak Tan is in Selama and Bang Baha is Kg.Medan , Old Klang Road,His
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