Fwd: Balasan: RE: Haq vs Batil / Respect your Elders.(VERY.......INTERESTING ISSUE !!! and I agree!!!!)

[Razol Mahari]

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From: Rostam bin Malek Malek <ar_...@yahoo.com.my>
Date: Jul 28, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: Balasan: RE: Haq vs Batil / Respect your Elders.(VERY.......INTERESTING ISSUE !!! and I agree!!!!)
To: Shireena Basree <s_ba...@yahoo.com>, norbaayah mahari young < bay...@hotmail.com>, rawo...@yahoo.co.uk, rawo...@yahoo.co.uk
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Assalamualaikum wbt.
Saya amat tertarik sekali dengan penerangan daripada
rawo_dua tentang susur galur keluarga rawo.
Sesungguhnya Rasulullah sendiri begitu mengambil berat
tentang perkara tersebut. Teruskan usaha ....
--- Shireena Basree <s_ba...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> My sentiments exactly Achu .... well said !!! I
> intended to reply  yesterday, but figured I should
> just keep my mouth shut ... but since you've spoken
> ... I think that there is a need for me to second
> your motion. So much about THE family tree ... yet
> nobody has visited Aunty Wok in Sungai Buloh ...
> Atan ??? have you ???
>
>   It hurts me to read about the discussion regarding
> my Tok Mak ... in all honesty, I wonder if theres
> any hidden reason behind this 'quest' to find out
> whether she is Tok Ayah's first or second wife !!!!
> What is the point in questioning ... ??? They are
> all gone ... let them rest in peace. Btw, are we
> expected to accept another no 2 ... if at all my Tok
> Mak is no 2 ???? mmmhhmm I wonder, could this be the
> reason ???
>
>   That said ... I have called mak to clarify , as
> per asked by Atan ... and her answer is "refer back
> to Tok Chu" if in doubt , because she is the eldest
> around ... and not anyone else.
>
>   I apologize if I may sound a little harsh in this
> mail ... never meant to hurt anyone ...  Im sorry
> again ...
>
>   -wah-
>
>
>
> norbaayah mahari young <bay...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Thank you so much for filling me in with our family
> roots. My children are
> always interested in "family trees" and this will be
> enriching. My hats off
> to the people that have worked hard to get this
> together.
>
> Family tree aside.......now to a family issue that
> has troubled me for
> years. I am the first to admit that I am not perfect
> seeing that I have
> lived in this part of the world for
> sometime........like some will say the
> western ways are a little tainted. Saying and
> practising what we hold dear
> in our hearts are two separate things. I too am a
> culprit in this
> matter...........cos I have not done enough except
> to visit when my
> schedules are not tight upon my return to Malaysia
> It is well and good that
> we are doing what we professed we are doing and
> should be doing etc. etc.
> But my question to every member of the family is
> what have we done to a
> member of the Rao clan............Kak Wok? Show me
> "UNITY" after we have
> handled this subject. I hope we will not hear stuff
> like it should be so and
> so's responsibility. That she never lived with us,
> that she is Mahari's
> daughter, that it is not our responsibility etc.
> etc. This is my challenge
> to the clan...........let us try to be united. No
> disrespect
> intended........... but how many of us have actually
> visited her at Sungai
> Buloh? To the topic of
> respect..................................and my
> question to all........is she given due respect???
>
> I hope to hear some good suggestions from the
> Rao/Rawo clan. I seek
> forgiveness kalau terkasar bahasa. But I cannot go
> on further without making
> my thoughts known. I suppose this is one of the
> "tainted" western ways that
> I have adopted in my life............
>
> Salam.
>
> Acu/Bakyah
>
> >From: Mohd Ali Mahari
> >To: Haji Asrul Dahari
> >CC: Asraf Mohd Dahari , "Azman Nan) Dahari"
> >, Razol Mahari , Mohamed
> >Azli Bin Haji Asrul , "Omar Mahari Aman Andre )"
> >, Rostam bin Malek ,
> >mohdzaki...@exxonmobil.com,
> manan...@yahoo.com.my,
> > mra...@upsi.edu.my, Azril Mahari bin Haji Mohd Ali
> >, Rizal Mahari bin Haji Mohd Ali
> >, Zarol Mahari bin Haji Mohd Ali
> >, Darmawatti Dahari ,
> >Hadi Harun , Muhammad Haikal Hafi Harun
> >, "Hjh.Asma Laili Asrul" ,
> >Idahayati Md Dahari , Noraidah Mahari
> >, Norbayah Mahari Young ,
> >Norehan Ahmad , Norkamsiah Mahari
> >, rosemayat...@cimb.com, Roseshazila Abdul
> >Latif , Shereena Basree ,
> >Zakir Basree
> >Subject: Haq vs Batil / Respect your Elders.
> >Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:38:11 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >Waalaikum mussalam wm/bt.
> >
> > Thanks As ( Haji Asrul bin Mohamed Dahari ),
> >
> > You just cleared the grey area where Mak Ngah ( my
> mother ) & CheDa
> >Hasnah ( Mak Ngah used to relate to Kak Wook's
> mother ) are concerned.
> >
> > I have never doubted you before and Abang Ali
> knows that at our age, we
> >must live by the Islamic ethic of - Firman Allah
> swt : "Dan Janganlah Kamu
> >Campur Adukkan Yang HAQ Itu Dengan Yang BATIL, Dan
> Kamu Sembunyikan Yang
> >Benar Itu Pula, Padahal Kamu Semua Mengetahuinya."
> > (Al-Baqarah : 42)
> >
> >The other man apart from my father, in our Rawo
> family that will always
> >inspired me, during his life time, is my late
> Uncle, Ar-Marhum Mohamed
> >Dahari bin Haji Mohd Ali. The true Malay warrior
> who fought for the freedom
> >of Malaya. Who never kowtow to the British nor the
> Chinese.
> >
> > Arwah Pak Anjang ( Captain Mahyuddin ) once quote:
> We need more people
> >like Buyung ( Dahari ).
> >
> > Hope to have a copy of his memoire, soon.
> >
> > Semoga Allah swt mencucuri rahmat and tempatkan
> arwah serta keluarga
> >kita, yang telah kembali ke rahmatullah, bersama
> para solihin.
> >
> > The way he respected his elders and treated his
> brothers is a practised
> >of the old. I too felt the treatment to myself in a
> very special way.
> >
> > In order for the Rawo clan to be united this
> should be practised, adat
> >orang Timor, not neglected, just because the
> Western Culture are more
> >enjoyable (banyak hiburan - na'uzubillah) & more
> conveniance.
> >
> > That is the reason why, I addressed Mohd Ramli
> Buyung Kahar ( though he
> >is 5 to 6 years younger - correct if I'm wrong, pls
> ) as Pak Zain, because
> >he is our fathers' 1st.cousin.
> >
> > Wassalam,
> >
> > Abang Ali.
> > Haji Mohd Ali bin Mahari.
> >
> >
> >
> > Haji Asrul Dahari wrote:
> > ASM wr.wt.
> >
> > With reference to my first e-mail, I would like to
> amend the following
> >info, again seeking forgiveness for any other
> errors made.
> >
> > Please refer to original text. Amendments and
> additions are in bold.
> >
> > Our family came to Malaya about 40 years after
> Tuanku Imam Perang Bonjol
> >has been defeated by the Dutch in 1838, i.e about
> 1878, about 129 years
> >ago....The war with the Dutch began in 1821 was
> called Padre War (Perang
> >Paderi).
> >
> >
> >Mohd Ali Mahari wrote:
> > Addressess tak complete anakanda. Pls give both -
> res / off.
> >
> > As, your footnote, is that permanent.
> > Your particulars too, As.
> >
>
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