Hey jerk Baxter - At VFW post, black and white veterans agree

[a425couple]

So jerk leftest Baxter posts thinking that those
who want respect for the anthem are "right-wing bigots"
and that they do not "show respect for the lives of black people."
He is insulting, and on the wrong side of another issue.


At VFW post, black and white veterans agree: NFL protests were 'a slap
in my face'

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The old vets who gather at VFW Post 7843 in Duncanville argue about
everything — politics and religion, immigration and abortion, civil
rights and sexual orientation — but they typically share a singular love
of country and professional football.
Ricky Williams(Scott Farwell/Staff)

So after a weekend of locked arms and bended knees in the NFL, a protest
that swept the full slate of games after Monday night's showing of
solidarity by the Dallas Cowboys and Arizona Cardinals, nowhere was the
debate more personal than at racially diverse gatherings of American
veterans watching America's most popular sport.
Ricky Williams, the commander of VFW Post 7843, said he struggles to
straddle a life that is both patriotically American and
African-American, identities that increasingly seem in conflict.

"As a veteran of the United States, I think it is disrespectful to me
personally, but at the same time, we fought to give people the freedom
to protest in that manner," he said. "It's a slap in my face, but I
strongly support the cause, pointing out the injustice toward black
people. I just don't support the way it's being done."
Williams said he sensed this particular demonstration against police
brutality, which began last year when San Francisco 49ers quarterback
Colin Kaepernick sat down during the national anthem, was beginning to
lose steam. But a speech by President Donald Trump in Alabama last week
reinvigorated the movement and unified NFL players, coaches and owners
against him.

"Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody
disrespects our flag, say, 'Get that son of a bitch off the field right
now. Out! He's fired. He's fired!" Trump said at a rally for Republican
Luther Strange, who's running to keep a U.S. Senate seat vacated by
Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
Trump followed up the speech with a flurry of similarly incendiary
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The booing at the NFL football game last night, when the entire Dallas
team dropped to its knees, was loudest I have ever heard. Great anger
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The NFL has all sorts of rules and regulations. The only way out for
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The pregame protests last weekend, which were carefully choreographed
and supported by league officials, attempted to find a sweet spot
between two tricky issues: affirming players' rights to free speech,
while not offending veterans and others who see standing for the
national anthem as a sacrosanct act of respect.

Don Singleton, who was in the Army during the Vietnam era, said the
demonstrations failed.
"I agree with Trump, absolutely," said the 67-year-old, who is white.
"If players take a knee, they should not play in that game or get paid
for it. I love football, but it's getting to where I'd rather watch
college than the NFL."
Singleton said it makes no sense to disrespect the flag during protests
about police brutality or racial injustice. The flag symbolizes the
ideal of equal rights, the aspirations of a blind judicial system, our
right to live free.
In the same way Trump's point is lost in his vitriolic rhetoric, the
issue of persistent and institutional racism is overshadowed by
televised theatrics.
"The players have a valid point: Some things need to be fixed,"
Singleton said. "But they're going about it at the wrong place and time."
Williams agreed. As the commander of the VFW post, he tries to promote
substantive conversations among veterans rather than emotional ones,
especially when it comes to politics and religion.
"Those topics should be spoken of, but I've found there are three things
that don't mix — politics, religion and alcohol," he said. "If I can
take two of those from the equation, we can continue to sit around and
talk and lie about what we did in the service."

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2017/09/26/vfw-post-black-white-veterans-agree-nfl-protests-slap-face

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"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> So jerk leftest Baxter posts thinking that those
> who want respect for the anthem are "right-wing bigots"
> and that they do not "show respect for the lives of black people."
> He is insulting, and on the wrong side of another issue.
>
>
> At VFW post, black and white veterans agree: NFL protests were 'a slap in
> my face'
>
> Profile image for Scott Farwell
> Scott Farwell, Breaking News/Enterprise
> Connect with Scott Farwell On Twitter Email
>
> The old vets who gather at VFW Post 7843 in Duncanville argue about
> everything — politics and religion, immigration and abortion, civil rights
> and sexual orientation — but they typically share a singular love of
> country and professional football.
> Ricky Williams(Scott Farwell/Staff)
>
> So after a weekend of locked arms and bended knees in the NFL, a protest
> that swept the full slate of games after Monday night's showing of
> solidarity by the Dallas Cowboys and Arizona Cardinals, nowhere was the
> debate more personal than at racially diverse gatherings of American
> veterans watching America's most popular sport.

<snip>

It should be noted that DirecTV is give refunds for the NFL Sunday Ticket
package. (confirmed by ESPN)

Seems people are upset enough to cancel their NFL viewing coverage, and
DirecTV has had to sense to give in and provide refunds even though the
season has started.

Meanwhile:
Viewership is down by double digits.
Several companies have canceled or revoked endorsement deals of these
players.

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"Baxter" <lbax02_s...@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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> a425couple <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:oqh9o...@news4.newsguy.com:

>
>> So jerk leftest Baxter posts thinking that those
>> who want respect for the anthem are "right-wing bigots"
>> and that they do not "show respect for the lives of black people."
>> He is insulting, and on the wrong side of another issue.
>>

> ---------
> What I find so frustrating about the NFL players "taking a knee"
>
> What really frustrates me is people, including the Don the Con, who
> continue to push the phony meme that this is about "disrespecting the
> flag,
> the military, and the country".

Wrong, the issue isn't whether the players intend to show such disrespect,
but rather that they are.

Further, since they now know that a lot of people, like well over 50%
considers the timing of their protest to be disrespectful and they continue
to do so.....then whether they originally intended it as disrespect becomes
a moot issue because by now they should know better and they continue to do
so.

So, it's not a false meme, but rather it is willful disrespect.

> Colin Kaepernick said from the beginning what this is about.

Then he should have picked an appropriate place and time for his protest. On
the field during the playing of the anthem is NEITHER.

> Unarmed people
> of color being gunned down in the streets by law enforcement

Seems pretty racist that you don't consider the people who aren't of color
who are similarly gun downed unarmed.

But here's a little secret for you....you do NOT have to be armed to be a
threat that the officer can respond with deadly force against.

Indeed, looking at a cross section of the events being protests, the
overwhelming bulk show every sign as being legitimate with the suspect doing
a lot to result in their being shot.

Now, I don't claim police are perfect, and mistakes will be made and even
possibly poor judgment or even willful action, but the protests start before
the facts are even in.


> with no
> justice

The officer is investigated and charged if the circumstances call for it.
Then a jury decides if they acted properly. Strangely despite the ignorant
protesters a jury with ALL the facts in front of them regularly find that
the officer is not guilty.

>and the damage of institutionalized racism overall.

The institutionalized racism is when you protest only over people of
color.....that, sir, is institutionalized racism. They aren't protesting the
police, they are protesting that some of the victims are minorities. As if
that somehow makes them worthy of special consideration and outrage.

Where is their outrage and protest when the victim is white? Where is their
outrage and protest when the officer is a person of color?

Oh, that's right, the only time it apparently matters is when a white cop
shoots a person of color.....no matter what the circumstances are.


> Yet we still have millions in this country who can't, or refuse to think.

Like the person who wrote this, and the idiot who posted it to Usenet.

[None of the Above]

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 04:57:35 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
<lbax02_s...@baxcode.com> wrote:

>a425couple <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:oqh9o...@news4.newsguy.com:
>

>> So jerk leftest Baxter posts thinking that those
>> who want respect for the anthem are "right-wing bigots"
>> and that they do not "show respect for the lives of black people."
>> He is insulting, and on the wrong side of another issue.
>>

>---------
>What I find so frustrating about the NFL players "taking a knee"
>
>What really frustrates me is people, including the Don the Con, who
>continue to push the phony meme that this is about "disrespecting the flag,
>the military, and the country".

When it's really about unearned respect for black criminals.

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"None of the Above" <E...@erg.oy> wrote in message
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Which, frankly, seems to be more true than any assertion of protesting
police brutality.

[Curt Portland]

On 9/27/2017 10:57 PM, Baxter wrote:
> Yet we still have millions in this country who can't, or refuse to think.

You're a sick, racist, mentally disturbed old heart patient, may you
burn in HELL for eternity!



But first your heart is spasming again, innit?

Better take your nitroglycerin pills, bypass boy, your arteries are
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On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 04:57:35 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
<lbax02_s...@baxcode.com> wrote:

>a425couple <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:oqh9o...@news4.newsguy.com:
>

>> So jerk leftest Baxter posts thinking that those
>> who want respect for the anthem are "right-wing bigots"
>> and that they do not "show respect for the lives of black people."
>> He is insulting, and on the wrong side of another issue.
>>

>---------
>What I find so frustrating about the NFL players "taking a knee"
>
>What really frustrates me is people, including the Don the Con, who
>continue to push the phony meme that this is about "disrespecting the flag,
>the military, and the country".
>

>Colin Kaepernick said from the beginning what this is about. Unarmed people
>of color being gunned down in the streets by law enforcement with no
>justice and the damage of institutionalized racism overall.

>
>Yet we still have millions in this country who can't, or refuse to think.
>

>- unattributed.

Here's a perfect example.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/michelle-obama-women-voters/index.html

Michelle Obama: 'Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted
against their own voice'

[Al Czervik]

Did she vote against her "own voice" when she voted against Hillary! and
for Barrack Hussein?



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