Importing whole linkblogs into Radio2

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Dave Winer

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Nov 22, 2011, 2:53:07 PM11/22/11
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There is no Export command in Radio2, we update the backup of your blog after every edit.

But there is an Import command.. It's new!

http://worknotes.scripting.com/november2011/112211ByDw/firstReleaseOfRadio2Import

Dave


Adam Curry

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Nov 22, 2011, 5:06:26 PM11/22/11
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COnfirming the import went as expected.
Had feeds, archives, html and top links for your linkblog and occupy
feeds on the links page.

Until I tried posting something as per the instructions. Then
everything disappeared from the links page.

I believe this is also to be expected as I don't have any of your
credentials and cannot post as you (I hope!)

AC

> http://worknotes.scripting.com/november2011/112211ByDw/firstReleaseOf...
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> Dave

Dave Winer

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Nov 22, 2011, 9:46:36 PM11/22/11
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Is this a bug report?

Dave Winer

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Nov 23, 2011, 8:41:16 AM11/23/11
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Adam, I appreciate that you tried it! I really do. (No sarcasm.)

But -- I need more info. If that was a bug report, then a screen shot showing the Links page would be helpful in understanding what problems are there.

However, as you said, some of the items being empty is a *good* thing at first, but after you post something they shouldn't be empty any longer.

It should function in every way like a Radio2 blog, but in a new location.

As I'm sure you realize, problems reported in this feature a week from now will be hard to debug. We still have not developed a rhythm here, and that is a problem for a development project.

Les? Dan? Ted? Can you guys give it a try? I posted a How To Test section in the worknotes yesterday.

http://worknotes.scripting.com/november2011/112211ByDw/firstReleaseOfRadio2Import

BTW, this feature is not yet recommended for non-tech newbies. :-)

Dave

PS: Sometimes I write emails from my iPad. They are necessarily brief (the "keyboard" kind of sucks).

Adam Curry

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Nov 23, 2011, 11:12:26 AM11/23/11
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My mistake. I should have been more clear about my test environment.

I did this import on a fresh install of radio2 that did not yet have
the required parameters set for S3. The instructions called for a new
user, and I took that to be a complete fresh install as a new user to
the entire radio2 setup, not just a new user on an already configured
install

I re-did the test on a properly configured radio2 install and it
worked perfectly for me.

AC

On Nov 23, 7:41 am, Dave Winer <dave.wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Adam, I appreciate that you tried it! I really do. (No sarcasm.)
>
> But -- I need more info. If that was a bug report, then a screen shot
> showing the Links page would be helpful in understanding what problems are
> there.
>
> However, as you said, some of the items being empty is a *good* thing at
> first, but after you post something they shouldn't be empty any longer.
>
> It should function in every way like a Radio2 blog, but in a new location.
>
> As I'm sure you realize, problems reported in this feature a week from now
> will be hard to debug. We still have not developed a rhythm here, and that
> is a problem for a development project.
>
> Les? Dan? Ted? Can you guys give it a try? I posted a How To Test section
> in the worknotes yesterday.
>

> http://worknotes.scripting.com/november2011/112211ByDw/firstReleaseOf...


>
> BTW, this feature is not yet recommended for non-tech newbies. :-)
>
> Dave
>
> PS: Sometimes I write emails from my iPad. They are necessarily brief (the
> "keyboard" kind of sucks).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Dave Winer <dave.wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is this a bug report?
>

Ted Howard

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Nov 23, 2011, 11:49:01 AM11/23/11
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I worked my way through the how to, but I ran into a few issues related to my personal rube-goldberg inspired server system.

One thing that I did notice that puzzles me is that the import process brought in all the preferences including the locations of your static feeds stored on S3.  Where I expected to see a bucket that I controlled (ex: static.tedchoward.com/radio2/test) I saw your S3 bucket (static.newsriver.org/dave).

When I post to this account, I see my post on the homepage (screenshot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3369718/screen_shots/import_post.png), but the static feeds are on your server and not writable by me (screenshot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3369718/screen_shots/import_feeds.png).

In this context, is this "new user" just an archive of another account, or should I have a pure new user with all the post history of the imported account?  What am I missing here?

Ted

Dave Winer

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Nov 23, 2011, 11:58:03 AM11/23/11
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I don't understand why you expected your buckets to be there. It's my blog after all.

Did anything actually fail?

Re the New User -- the instructions mean to create a new account, using the New User command in the opmlEditor website.

Dave

Ted Howard

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Nov 23, 2011, 12:07:19 PM11/23/11
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When I moved my blog off of wordpress.com to my own server, I created a new install of wordpress on my server and imported the old blog into the new one.  What I ended up with was a new blog on a new server that wrote records into a new database and files to a new server, but all the posts and comments and other settings from the old blog were brought over.

That's what I had in my head when I saw the import feature.  "Exactly the same content, new location."

I guess I could achieve that by editing the s3 settings once the import finished.

Otherwise I have no real bugs to report (except the ones that occur between the keyboard and my chair).

Ted

Dave Winer

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Nov 23, 2011, 12:12:06 PM11/23/11
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Ted the way you say WordPress works is the way this works too.

If it's not doing that, when you post something new, then it's a bug.

This software stores stuff in S3, so it's *conceivable* I might want to use the same settings as before, after reimporting.

That is something WordPress doesn't do, so it can export less.

Dave

Ted Howard

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Nov 23, 2011, 12:19:30 PM11/23/11
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I'm tracking now.  That makes sense.

Ted
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