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Otto

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Sep 9, 2009, 4:53:56 AM9/9/09
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Would it be possible to develop a solution where user's feeds can be
syncronized with Opera Link? Perhaps the MyOpera account could host
all feeds and function similar to IMAP?

Aaron W. Hsu

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Sep 9, 2009, 9:41:22 AM9/9/09
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Hello Otto,

Feeds work through the mail system. Doing this would basically involved
the ability to store mail remotely in Opera Link. I doubt this is
practical. Additionally, these feeds are normally already synchronized by
virtue of their contents existing remotely.

Sincerely,

Aaron W. Hsu

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Rijk van Geijtenbeek

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Sep 10, 2009, 11:33:40 AM9/10/09
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Op Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:41:22 +0200 schreef Aaron W. Hsu
<arc...@sacrideo.us>:

> Hello Otto,
>
> On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:53:56 -0400, Otto <otto.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Would it be possible to develop a solution where user's feeds can be
>> syncronized with Opera Link? Perhaps the MyOpera account could host
>> all feeds and function similar to IMAP?
>
> Feeds work through the mail system. Doing this would basically involved
> the ability to store mail remotely in Opera Link. I doubt this is
> practical. Additionally, these feeds are normally already synchronized
> by virtue of their contents existing remotely.

Full blown IMAP-like functionality is rather too much. Unless it could be
offered as a paid service, I don't see this happening. Newsgator offered
such a service with clients on various platforms, first paid, then free,
and is now dropping it, replacing it in the adware clients they keep with
synchronizing with Google Reader instead.

Something like synchronizing the list of subscribed feeds should be easy
enough; synchronizing what has been marked as read and/or deleted might be
possible but is rather hard to get right and might cause a lot of web
traffic. I'm not sure if the first is very useful without the second.

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Rijk van Geijtenbeek
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Otto

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Sep 19, 2009, 9:26:58 AM9/19/09
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On Sep 9, 2:41 pm, "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcf...@sacrideo.us> wrote:
> Hello Otto,
>

Thanks for your feedback Aaron. The idea is to be able to read feeds
from one source avoiding duplicates. I subscribe to the same feeds in
Opera on both my desktop and laptop. I believe an IMAP solution would
avoid this.

Otto

Otto

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Sep 19, 2009, 8:52:28 PM9/19/09
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On Sep 10, 4:33 pm, "Rijk van Geijtenbeek" <r...@opera.removethiz.com>
wrote:

> Op Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:41:22 +0200 schreef Aaron W. Hsu  
> <arcf...@sacrideo.us>:
>
> > Hello Otto,

Thanks for your feedback Rijk. I realise the financial and bandwidth
impact a full blown IMAP-like functionality would entail. As Aaron
mentioned, it would likely be impractical.

I would be happy to use Google Reader if this would do the same thing.
Is it correct to assume I could subscribe to my own feeds and achieve
an IMAP like experience or would I have to be online to achieve this?

I agree, you would want both functionalities; 1) synchronizing
subscribed feeds and 2) synchronizing read and/or deleted feeds. But
adding the option to add the first to the Opera Link options would
certainly be a nice touch, centralising user settings and provide a
'roaming profile'. Perhaps this could be achieved with email settings
as well? (I know this bit probably belongs under another thread).

I don't understand the technical implications in achieving IMAP Feeds,
but thought perhaps some practical solutions to prevent bandwidth
could be:
- Provide low bandwidth setting similar to Opera Mail.
- Download new feeds only when unread feeds are less than 3. Download
latest feeds first.
- Cap the stored feeds in Opera Link (MyOpera account) by number of
feeds or memory used. Alternatively automatically delete feeds older
than 1 month.
- Use a feed cache of all subscribed feeds on Opera Servers and save
bandwidth by only downloading each feed once, before feeding multiple
users with the same feed.
- Provide a bare bones solution where Opera users only receive text
feeds (no RTF or HTML).
- Download feed images only when user clicks on empty images (show
images).
- Download images from original feed source, using the user's
bandwidth.
- Provide stats to highest and lowest read feeds, encouraging the user
to remove low performing feeds.

Otto

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