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Warren Post

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Sep 15, 2012, 4:18:13 PM9/15/12
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I know, this is an Opera NG, not a LibreOffice NG. But I'm betting someone
here has already faced this issue.

I use Opera 12.02 as a mail client and LibreOffice 3.4.5 as my office
suite, running Linux Mint Debian Edition 201204. LibreOffice has a "send
document as email" command. Searching the web, I see it works fine with
some other mail clients (Thunderbird, etc.). But when I try it, I get the
error message:

"LibreOffice was unable to find a working e-mail configuration. Please
save this document locally instead and attach it from within your e-mail
client."

The relevant configuration appears to be found in LibreOffice at Tools -
Options - Internet - Email. I've tried "opera", "/usr/bin/opera", and
"/usr/bin/opera --remote 'openComposer(new-window)'" (all without the
double quotes). All of the above work from the terminal, and the latter
opens a new message composition window, but none make LibreOffice's error
go away.

Searching the web, this NG, and LibreOffice's documentation turns up
nothing relevant.

I'm out of ideas. Does anyone know how to make LibreOffice play nicely
with Opera Mail?

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Warren Post
http://my.opera.com/wpost/

JJ

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Sep 17, 2012, 9:16:10 AM9/17/12
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"Warren Post" <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> I'm out of ideas. Does anyone know how to make LibreOffice play nicely
> with Opera Mail?

Does that LibraOffice version support Opera 12? It could be that it support
up to Opera 11 only. No support for Opera 12 yet.

Warren Post

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Sep 17, 2012, 3:39:25 PM9/17/12
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:16:10 -0600, JJ <jaejunks_at@_googlemail_dot._com>
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I'm not certain, but I don't believe LibreOffice or its predecessors
OpenOffice.org and StarOffice ever supported Opera Mail out of the box.
I've been using StarOffice/OOo/LibreOffice and Opera since the early 2000s
and never could get them to play together. The only thing new is that now
I've quit grumbling and have started looking for a solution. ;-)

JJ

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Sep 17, 2012, 6:10:12 PM9/17/12
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"Warren Post" <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:16:10 -0600, JJ
> I'm not certain, but I don't believe LibreOffice or its predecessors
> OpenOffice.org and StarOffice ever supported Opera Mail out of the
> box. I've been using StarOffice/OOo/LibreOffice and Opera since the
> early 2000s and never could get them to play together. The only thing
> new is that now I've quit grumbling and have started looking for a
> solution. ;-)

You might want to try writing your own AutoIt script to save the current
document then send it to Opera using the window, keyboard and mouse
functions. i.e.: via keyboard presses and/or mouse clicks emulations.

Warren Post

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Sep 17, 2012, 7:57:39 PM9/17/12
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:10:12 -0600, JJ <jaejunks_at@_googlemail_dot._com>
wrote:

> You might want to try writing your own AutoIt script to save the current
> document then send it to Opera using the window, keyboard and mouse
> functions. i.e.: via keyboard presses and/or mouse clicks emulations.

AutoIt is Windows only, and I'm using Linux. But I see your point, and I'm
sure there's more than one scripting solution that could do this.
LibreOffice itself has a pretty powerful (and multiplatform) scripting
language, for starters.

But given that the consensus at ask.libreoffice.org (where I also asked)
seems to be that it can't just work out of the box like it does for, say,
Thunderbird, then what I'll do is make a feature request of LibreOffice.
Does anyone know of any reason the LibreOffice developers might blame this
on an issue with Opera? I ask because I'd like to preempt any objections.

JJ

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Sep 19, 2012, 1:07:37 AM9/19/12
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"Warren Post" <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:10:12 -0600, JJ
> AutoIt is Windows only, and I'm using Linux. But I see your point, and
> I'm sure there's more than one scripting solution that could do this.
> LibreOffice itself has a pretty powerful (and multiplatform)
> scripting language, for starters.
>
> But given that the consensus at ask.libreoffice.org (where I also
> asked) seems to be that it can't just work out of the box like it
> does for, say, Thunderbird, then what I'll do is make a feature
> request of LibreOffice. Does anyone know of any reason the
> LibreOffice developers might blame this on an issue with Opera? I ask
> because I'd like to preempt any objections.

One thing for sure is that the specs for "mailto" protocol doesn't
mention anything about mail attachments. So, one example such as
Microsoft Outlook (older version only; Windows), use non-standard
variable like this:

mailto:h...@there.com?subject=intro&body=whatever&attachments="c:
\image.jpg"

I don't know about linux but, in Windows, there's a programming interface
(API) for email called MAPI in a file named "MAPI32.DLL", so any program
can use it to send emails to whatever the default email application is,
as long as the email application provides MAPI service. Thunderbird does
as well as SeaMonkey. But not Opera. There's no reference to that file
whatsoever. That's one half thing for sure why they (and now me) blame
Opera.

I suppose linux has this kind of API also, and Opera for linux probably
doesn't utilize it too.

Warren Post

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Sep 19, 2012, 6:07:56 PM9/19/12
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:07:37 -0600, JJ <jaejunks_at@_googlemail_dot._com>
wrote:

> I don't know about linux but, in Windows, there's a programming interface
> (API) for email called MAPI in a file named "MAPI32.DLL", so any program
> can use it to send emails to whatever the default email application is,
> as long as the email application provides MAPI service. Thunderbird does
> as well as SeaMonkey. But not Opera. There's no reference to that file
> whatsoever. That's one half thing for sure why they (and now me) blame
> Opera.
>
> I suppose linux has this kind of API also, and Opera for linux probably
> doesn't utilize it too.

Good call. I have just learned that this has until recently been the case
in Windows (Opera/Win 12 now supports MAPI) and continues to be the case
on Linux:

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1530742&t=1348091921&page=1#comment13100232

I've made a feature request to Opera, asking that the Linux version catch
up to the Windows one in functionality. And as a workaround, the
LibreOffice mailing list suggests I set up Thunderbird send-only and point
LibreOffice to it. Since I use IMAP, I'll still be able to use Opera Mail
for everything except what I can't do now anyway, which is send a file as
an attachment from within LibreOffice.

Thanks for your help and ideas,
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