Strange Window Behavior

Aaron W. Hsu

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:52:49 AM11/10/09

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Hey All,

I tried using a different window manager (mwm) today instead of KDE. I
disabled KDE and the only window manager I am running is Mwm. When I
started Opera, I discovered that I can't resize any of the windows, nor
move them without using the pager feature of Mwm. The titlebar menu has
all of the options except raise and lower grayed out. Is there some way to
fix this?

Opera 10.10 Beta 4694 Linux x86_64.

Aaron W. Hsu

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Jorgen Grahn

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Nov 11, 2009, 3:28:26 AM11/11/09

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On Tue, 2009-11-10, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> I tried using a different window manager (mwm) today instead of KDE. I
> disabled KDE and the only window manager I am running is Mwm. When I
> started Opera, I discovered that I can't resize any of the windows, nor
> move them without using the pager feature of Mwm. The titlebar menu has
> all of the options except raise and lower grayed out. Is there some way to
> fix this?

Do you mean the ancient http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motif_Window_Manager
or has someone reused the name?

For what it's worth, I run an "odd" window manager (ctwm,
based on the ancient twm) and it works fine with Opera,
so Opera does not break on old window managers in general.

/Jorgen

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Aaron W. Hsu

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:23:01 PM11/11/09

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Ancient? :-) Actually, the one that caused problems was Mwm from Lesstif,
which I didn't realize I was using. After getting rid of LessTif and
installing IST's 2.1.32 OpenMotif, things worked much better.

Jorgen Grahn

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:27:30 PM11/12/09

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On Wed, 2009-11-11, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:28:26 -0500, Jorgen Grahn
> <grahn...@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2009-11-10, Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
>>> I tried using a different window manager (mwm) today instead of KDE. I
>>> disabled KDE and the only window manager I am running is Mwm. When I
>>> started Opera, I discovered that I can't resize any of the windows, nor
>>> move them without using the pager feature of Mwm. The titlebar menu has
>>> all of the options except raise and lower grayed out. Is there some way
>>> to
>>> fix this?
>>
>> Do you mean the ancient http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motif_Window_Manager
>> or has someone reused the name?
>>
>> For what it's worth, I run an "odd" window manager (ctwm,
>> based on the ancient twm) and it works fine with Opera,
>> so Opera does not break on old window managers in general.
>
> Ancient? :-)

Yeah, well, Motif is (to me) the Windows 3.1 of Unix GUIs. And twm was
the one everybody used when I first saw X11, in 1992 or so.

> Actually, the one that caused problems was Mwm from Lesstif,
> which I didn't realize I was using. After getting rid of LessTif and
> installing IST's 2.1.32 OpenMotif, things worked much better.

I guess that increases the chance that the bug is in the Lesstif
window manager.

Aaron W. Hsu

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Nov 13, 2009, 2:22:28 AM11/13/09

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Jorgen Grahn <grahn...@snipabacken.se> writes:

>> Actually, the one that caused problems was Mwm from Lesstif,
>> which I didn't realize I was using. After getting rid of LessTif and
>> installing IST's 2.1.32 OpenMotif, things worked much better.

>I guess that increases the chance that the bug is in the Lesstif
>window manager.

It is almost certainly a problem with Lesstif, so I am not worried at all.

Aaron W. Hsu