SE P800
Jim
If so, I've got a problem I need help with. I use T-Mobile wireless service
in New York, and their recent service changes seem to have blocked Opera
from communicating with the web. The phone's default browser can connect
and browse, but Opera is much better and faster. Opera used to work just
fine, so it's not that. I was wondering if there was any way to check the
configuration to see what may have changed.
Any help at all in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
--
Jim Hill
Harvey Cohn Architecture, PLLC
www.ecoarchitect.com
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Jim wrote:
> Does anyone here use Opera on a SE P800 Symbian phone?
>
> If so, I've got a problem I need help with. I use T-Mobile wireless
service
> in New York, and their recent service changes seem to have blocked
Opera
> from communicating with the web. The phone's default browser can
connect
> and browse, but Opera is much better and faster. Opera used to work
just
> fine, so it's not that. I was wondering if there was any way to
check the
> configuration to see what may have changed.
>
> Any help at all in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
I don't really know, but do you use this?
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/accelerator/
A service outage was reported here right after Christmas. Maybe there
was also a configuration change.
Of course, http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/uiq/ refers
P800 owners' support questions to Sony Ericsson, at the hyperlink
provided.
Is it possible T-Mobile set up a proxy server of their own - or changed
from one proxy server to another - and automatically fixed your phone's
builtin browser to use it, but you'd need to do something else to get
Opera to use it?
At http://www.phpbuddy.com/article.php?id=22 there's a simple script
that claims to detect when a proxy server is used. Of course this
depends on the proxy server announcing itself to this Web site by
sending the message(s) used in the script. But I'd expect that most
would.
You could also check connectivity with other network applications on
the P800. I have no idea how you'd do that...
Since I'm rambling for posterity, if any of this actually helps then do
report back!
Jim
I don't use the mobile accelerator. I don't like the idea of subscription
software.
It's funny that Opera refers users to SE because officially they don't
support the phone, although they do a pretty good job at trying.
I don't know about the proxy server, but they did tell me that they changed
their service to block port 80. And it seems that's enough to disable Opera
and AvantGo's connections. I tried that proxy detect and it said there's no
proxy server.
I have no idea at this point, but thanks for the help anyway.
--
Jim Hill
Harvey Cohn Architecture, PLLC
www.ecoarchitect.com
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Jim wrote:
> I don't use the mobile accelerator. I don't like the idea of
subscription
> software.
>
> It's funny that Opera refers users to SE because officially they
don't
> support the phone, although they do a pretty good job at trying.
>
> I don't know about the proxy server, but they did tell me that they
changed
> their service to block port 80. And it seems that's enough to
disable Opera
> and AvantGo's connections. I tried that proxy detect and it said
there's no
> proxy server.
>
> I have no idea at this point, but thanks for the help anyway.
Um. If they stop applications on the phone from connecting to other
Internet devices' port 80, they killed the Web. You seem to be telling
me they didn't do that. Unless there's another part to the story,
something like port mapping in between your phone and the Internet.
Your application also needs one or more port addresses on your own
machine as it runs. If that was port 80, you'd look like a Web server
- /on/ the phone. Blocking that isn't entirely unreasonable. But on
most devices, outgoing connections are numbered higher than the low
hundreds that most Internet service listeners use.
If it was that way around, a version of a trick that we sometimes use
for telnet might help - get another session to attempt its outbound
connection on port 80 and tie up the port (maybe run an actual Web
server*), and then Opera should take a different number for its
outgoing call... only, I'm not sure I know what I'm talking about.
I don't want to come on like a shill for the mobile accelerator, but
they claim to save you money on a low-bandwidth, high-price connection,
the trial period is free, and at worst it either won't work now or will
let your browser work for a couple of weeks, then back where you are
now.
*And here is one: http://johan.driessen.se/ - "Prosit TinyWebServer är
en minimal webserver till SonyEricsson P800/P900 skriven i Java."
Okay, I cheated. English-language mention at
http://my-symbian.com/uiq/applications/applications.php?fldAuto=160&faq=6
- if that works.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27903 is someone
who has Opera on P800 using a proxy server /on/ the phone, although
they only got HTTP and not HTTPS. Unfortunately that was four months
ago and he got no replies and is probably not waiting (unless the
message board sends him e-mail if someone replies - some do), but it
indicates it's possible. The possible benefit to you is to decouple
Opera from direct connection to the Internet, which, for whatever
reason, is no longer working. On the face of it, the proxy server
(whatever it is) would also be blocked, but if you can still use the
default browser then there must be /some/ way for comms to get off the
thing. Nicest would be if the proxy server simply works.
I'm not sure if there's any other benefit to using a proxy server on
the phone versus using a sophisticated, cacheing browser, but I expect
it makes sense to somebody. Maybe it filters out popup ad requests.
Of course, the lack of official technical support may mean you prefer
to give up. Possibly that's the most sensible reaction...
Jim
*
The OTA settings use the WAP configuration (and Internet settings) that use
Port 9201. This works fine. However, I've found that a few people have
problems with this. If this is the case, you can change the port settings to
use 8080. IF YOU USE PORT 8080, THEN YOU MUST ALSO USE THE PROXY SERVER AND
PORT 8080 ON THE INTERNET SETTINGS, TOO. The server IP address
<216.155.165.050> should remain the same as the OTA settings. Just the port
number is what you change.
*
It makes it Opera work just fine. I'm testing it out with AvantGo, and it
seems to be working.
Thanks for consistent attempts at helping me. I really appreciate your
time.
--
Jim Hill
Harvey Cohn Architecture, PLLC
www.ecoarchitect.com
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Jonny Axelsson
wrote:
> Does anyone here use Opera on a SE P800 Symbian phone?
>
> If so, I've got a problem I need help with. I use T-Mobile wireless
> service in New York, and their recent service changes seem
I do use Opera on a P800 regularly, but with a Norwegian operator. As you
have inferred the problem isn't related to the Opera browser as such, but
that T-Mobile wants to encourage their users to switch to other
subscription plans. A Google search on "t-mobile opera port 80" or similar
keywords should give you the full story, or maybe by contacting T-Mobile
directly.
--
Jonny Axelsson,
Documentation,
Opera Software