Printing page 1-65535
Timo Nentwig
Selecting the menu item File > Print brings up the Print dialog in which I
can specify whether to print all pages or only certain pages...well, the
default value is 1-65535.
I assume this is a bug (2^16).
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Bill Hallman
> Hi!
>
> Selecting the menu item File > Print brings up the Print dialog in which
> I
> can specify whether to print all pages or only certain pages...well, the
> default value is 1-65535.
>
> I assume this is a bug (2^16).
The computer actually counts from 0-65535, which is 65536 different counts.
Since printing 0 copies is not useful, they say 1-65535.
Bill
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Gene Goldenfeld
> Selecting the menu item File > Print brings up the Print dialog in which I
> can specify whether to print all pages or only certain pages...well, the
> default value is 1-65535.
>
> I assume this is a bug (2^16).
No, it's an annoying default setting. It sure would be nice if they got
rid of it and added a "current page" choice as well. And then added
multi-page print previewing (same screen) and showed page numbers
without having to invoke headers. Unfortuntately, developing a good, let
alone working, Print module has seemed to be an *extremely* low priority
with Opera developers/programmers. It seems short-sighted, since it
often forces users to go to other browsers to print. I haven't had
enough time with 7.02 yet, but hopefully it will the first one of the 7
series that even simply works without crashing.
Gene Goldenfeld
Gene Goldenfeld
>
> The computer actually counts from 0-65535, which is 65536 different counts.
> Since printing 0 copies is not useful, they say 1-65535.
Why does it need to say anything at all? That's the whole point of
having that selection, so the user can choose. 1-65535 is entirely
useless. Plus, it's an extra action for the user to get rid of it.
Gene Goldenfeld
Bill Hallman
wrote:
Many programs place "All" there, saying 1-65535, is the same as saying
"All".
I agree, it is not very useful to me, but some people may always
want to print all pages.
Gene Goldenfeld
>
> >> The computer actually counts from 0-65535, which is 65536 different
> >> counts.
> >> Since printing 0 copies is not useful, they say 1-65535.
> >
> > Why does it need to say anything at all? That's the whole point of
> > having that selection, so the user can choose. 1-65535 is entirely
> > useless. Plus, it's an extra action for the user to get rid of it.
> >
> > Gene Goldenfeld
> >
>
> Many programs place "All" there, saying 1-65535, is the same as saying
> "All".
> I agree, it is not very useful to me, but some people may always
> want to print all pages.
You're right, of course. The point is that putting "All" or "1-65535"
or anything else is redundant and defies the logic of having that
choice.
Gene
Timo Nentwig
> Timo Nentwig wrote:
>> Selecting the menu item File > Print brings up the Print dialog in
>> which I can specify whether to print all pages or only certain
>> pages...well, the default value is 1-65535.
>>
>> I assume this is a bug (2^16).
>
> No, it's an annoying default setting. It sure would be nice if they
Well, all printing dialogs I yet have seen set 1 as default value.
R.A.G. Seely
news:b3qecg$afa$1...@mail.opera.no:
> Hi!
>
> Selecting the menu item File > Print brings up the Print dialog in
> which I can specify whether to print all pages or only certain
> pages...well, the default value is 1-65535.
>
> I assume this is a bug (2^16).
??? Am I the only person running O7.02 who *doesn't* see this behaviour?
When I select File > Print I get a dialogue with these options:
Print range
* All
o Pages from [1] to [ ]
o Selection
(with the last "Selection" option greyed out - it stays greyed out even if
I select some text on the page first).
The default is "All", and if I click on "Pages" it shifts to that, leaving
the "1" and "(empty)" boxes unchanged. No "65535" at all. Ever.
Is this an OS issue? I am running NT4 SP6a.
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Thomas Weiland
> Selecting the menu item File > Print brings up the Print dialog in
> which I can specify whether to print all pages or only certain
> pages...well, the default value is 1-65535.
I can confirm this, but Opera is not printing this 65k-pages... There will
be printed only as much pages as needed.
Thomas
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<rags__A@T__math.mcgill.ca.invalid> wrote:
> "Timo Nentwig" <t...@despammed.com> wrote in
> news:b3qecg$afa$1...@mail.opera.no:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Selecting the menu item File > Print brings up the Print dialog in
>> which I can specify whether to print all pages or only certain
>> pages...well, the default value is 1-65535.
>>
>> I assume this is a bug (2^16).
>
> ??? Am I the only person running O7.02 who *doesn't* see this behaviour?
>
> When I select File > Print I get a dialogue with these options:
>
> Print range
>
> * All
> o Pages from [1] to [ ]
> o Selection
>
> (with the last "Selection" option greyed out - it stays greyed out even
> if I select some text on the page first).
>
> The default is "All", and if I click on "Pages" it shifts to that,
> leaving the "1" and "(empty)" boxes unchanged. No "65535" at all. Ever.
>
> Is this an OS issue? I am running NT4 SP6a.
>
> -= rags =-
>
I'm seeing the same thing you are, Rags...I always thought that dialog was
part of the print drivers. I know it changes with different printers.
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R.A.G. Seely
news:oprlddnm...@news.opera.com:
> I'm seeing the same thing you are, Rags...I always thought that dialog
> was part of the print drivers. I know it changes with different
> printers.
OK - so (as I vaguely suspected) this isn't an Opera issue at all, then.
Glad to get that cleared up.
Josef W. Segur
>Ken Knox <kno...@operamail.com> wrote in
>news:oprlddnm...@news.opera.com:
>
>> I'm seeing the same thing you are, Rags...I always thought that dialog
>> was part of the print drivers. I know it changes with different
>> printers.
>
>OK - so (as I vaguely suspected) this isn't an Opera issue at all, then.
>Glad to get that cleared up.
I believe Opera is using the Print dialog from Windows' common dialogs
in comdlg32.dll. If so, it is certainly Opera's responsibility to fill
in the fields in the control structure, and one of those is a setting
for the last page.
I have rather old documentation for that, but I Googled for PRINTDLG
and the first two hits were the MSDN pages describing the function and
the structure, so anyone wanting to see all the details can look there.
The specific element of the structure is nToPage.
On my Win95a system, I am also seeing a blank for the last page number
even if I do File | Print while viewing a document in Print Preview mode
which has 14 pages. However, that is so not only for Opera 7.02, but also
for 6.05, 5.12, and 3.62 using the same document.
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Gene Goldenfeld
> > Selecting the menu item File > Print brings up the Print dialog in
> > which I can specify whether to print all pages or only certain
> > pages...well, the default value is 1-65535.
>
> I can confirm this, but Opera is not printing this 65k-pages... There will
> be printed only as much pages as needed.
Really?
Gene Goldenfeld
>
> Well, all printing dialogs I yet have seen set 1 as default value.
Et alors? (translation: So?)
GG
Gene Goldenfeld
>
> I believe Opera is using the Print dialog from Windows' common dialogs
> in comdlg32.dll. If so, it is certainly Opera's responsibility to fill
> in the fields in the control structure, and one of those is a setting
> for the last page.
>
> I have rather old documentation for that, but I Googled for PRINTDLG
> and the first two hits were the MSDN pages describing the function and
> the structure, so anyone wanting to see all the details can look there.
> The specific element of the structure is nToPage.
>
> On my Win95a system, I am also seeing a blank for the last page number
> even if I do File | Print while viewing a document in Print Preview mode
> which has 14 pages. However, that is so not only for Opera 7.02, but also
> for 6.05, 5.12, and 3.62 using the same document.
Interesting to learn that this isn't general. I'm using XP Home with a
HP 4M. But this behavior (1-65xxx) only shows up in Opera, not NS or IE.
Gene Goldenfeld
Thomas Weiland
yes. When I print a document with 5 pages and select "1-65535", then I
only get 5 pages out of my printer.
Gene Goldenfeld
>
> Hi,
>
> >> > Selecting the menu item File > Print brings up the Print dialog in
> >> > which I can specify whether to print all pages or only certain
> >> > pages...well, the default value is 1-65535.
> >>
> >> I can confirm this, but Opera is not printing this 65k-pages...
> >> There will be printed only as much pages as needed.
> >
> > Really?
>
> yes. When I print a document with 5 pages and select "1-65535", then I
> only get 5 pages out of my printer.
Amazing! ;-)
Henk
>> yes. When I print a document with 5 pages and select "1-65535", then I
>> only get 5 pages out of my printer.
>
> Amazing! ;-)
No, this is terrible. Just yesterday I ordered that new printer with a huge
Opera-compatible sheet feeder that can hold 65,535 sheets. And now you are
telling me I don't need it after all?
Henk
M Cowperthwaite
> It sure would be nice if they got
> rid of it and added a "current page" choice as well.
I'm not sure that makes much sense. In a WP program, 'print current
page' prints the page the cursor is on, and the program typically shows
where the page boundaries fall. 'Current page' would only make sense
using Print Preview, to print the page currently being previewed.
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Howard Brazee
On 1-Mar-2003, Gene Goldenfeld <gene...@highstream.net> wrote:
> You're right, of course. The point is that putting "All" or "1-65535"
> or anything else is redundant and defies the logic of having that
> choice.
It would be nice if it filled in the correct number of pages for "all".