How to do this?
Bob Stringer
does in Opera 6. It closes pages "backwards," which I find
extremely inefficient. I'd appreciate advice on whether
there's a substitute, so I can navigate the way I do in
Opera 6 -- by closing pages in a *forward* direction.
Here's a specific example.
I'll have a bunch of pages open, all in one instance of
Opera. They'll include something such as the Hunger site:
<http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CTDSites>
Opera 6 and Opera 7 work the same way in the first stages. I
want to do my daily "donations" for all of the sites there
as quickly as possible. Therefore, I'll Ctrl + Shift + click
on the four additional tabs across the top of the page
(breast cancer, child health, rain forest, animal rescue --
I don't click the Hunger Site tab, of course, because I'm
already there). I then click the "Click give free food --
Click here" button.
I then move on to other things while four new pages load in
the background (because of the tabs I just hit) and the
hunger site page is replaced with a "Thank you!" page
(because of the button I hit there). When I eventually get
back to that set of five pages, there's now a button on each
of the four new pages to click on for my daily contributions
for breast cancer, child health, rain forest and animal
rescue. So, to do that I hit the number 2 key (ctrl + tab
works just as well in Opera 6; in Opera 7 it produces a
pop-up menu, which is good at other times, but slows things
down in this case). That takes me to the next page, where I
click on the relevant button, hit 2 again, click on the next
button, etc. That causes 4 additional "Thank you!" pages to
load. While they do so, I can go do other stuff. I
eventually get back to them, and I now want to close the
"Thank you!" pages.
And here's where Opera 6 and Opera 7 differ.
In Opera 6 I can quickly close all of "Thank you!" pages in
sequence (i.e., moving *forward*) by hitting Ctrl + W five
times in succession. In Opera 7, however, hitting Ctrl + W
takes me *backward* instead of forward. In other words,
after I close the first "Thank you!" page, I end up back at
the last page I had been looking at, rather than at the next
"Thank you!" page.
I suppose there's a reason for this change in Opera 7, but
it makes no sense to me. Ordinarily, after I close a page I
certainly don't want to immediately go back to the previous
page, which quite possibly may be in the process of loading
a new page if I happen to have hit a link there too. The
whole idea in Opera (IMHO, anyway) is to quickly move from
*page to page,* not to keep being tossed back to where I
started.
But anyway, is there any way to use Opera 7 to quickly close
these pages as in Opera 6? Right now, because of how often I
go through pages in this manner, I've had to keep Opera 6 on
my machine, because using Opera 7 is too tedious for this
purpose.
In order to anticipate one possible reply, I should note
that the actual sequence has an extra wrinkle. After I've
hit the donation buttons for the four new sites, and I then
hit "2" I arrive at the "Thank you!" page for the Hunger
site (because I hit the donation button for that site,
immediately after I Ctrl + Shift + clicked on the four tabs
in sequence). Hitting Ctrl + W to close that first "Thank
you!" page raises the issue right away, because it takes me
back to the last donation page, which may or may not have
moved on a fully loaded new "Thank you!" page.
Now, *if* pages loaded immediately, at that point I could
keep hitting Ctrl + W and move backward to close all of the
"Thank you!" pages. However, that's a poor option, because
pages often take time to load. It's therefore much more
convenient to be able move *forward* and do other things,
giving the new pages plenty of time to load. Accordingly,
I'd really like to be able to do this in Opera 7 the way I
do it in Opera 6.
Is there a solution?
Thanks.
Bob Stringer
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Jor
> Ctrl + W doesn't close pages in Opera 7 the same way that it
> does in Opera 6.
<SNIP>
> I'd really like to be able to do this in Opera 7 the way I
> do it in Opera 6.
>
> Is there a solution?
See <URL:http://nontroppo.org/wiki/Opera7Tips#T31> for a way to do this ✌
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A: No. See <URL:http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html>
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Bob Stringer
<darkelf(at)operamail(dot)c...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>See <URL:http://nontroppo.org/wiki/Opera7Tips#T31> for a way to do this ?
Hi Jor,
Looks like what I want, but it doesn't explain how to change
"keyboard mapping," and I can't find anything in the Opera
online help on the subject.
Is there help for that online somewhere, or can you explain?
Jor
> Looks like what I want, but it doesn't explain how to change
> "keyboard mapping," and I can't find anything in the Opera
> online help on the subject.
>
> Is there help for that online somewhere, or can you explain?
Open the preferences (Alt+P), and go to 'Mouse and keyboard'.
Select 'Opera standard' in the 'Keyboard setup' field, and click the
'Edit' button, OR: double-click the setup.
Do a search for 'w ctrl', and when you find the action 'Close page',
double-click it to alter it: enter 'Close page & Switch to next page'.
It should now look like this:
w ctrl | Close page & Switch to next page
Click 'OK', and 'OK' again to close the preferences. It should now work as
you want!
Rijk van Geijtenbeek
21:09:13 +0100:
> Bob Stringer <bob...@NotHere.net> wrote:
>
>> Looks like what I want, ..
Apart from changing the behavior of CTrl+W, there are some other ways to
close multiple page quickly:
* use the option 'close all but active' (if you want to keep only one page
open)
Ctrl+Alt+W, also from context menu of the Page bar
* use the Windows panel in the Hotlist, handy when you want to close a lot
of pages
Ctrl+7 to quickly open it, select the page that should be closed, press
Delete
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Bob Stringer
<darkelf(at)operamail(dot)c...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>Do a search for 'w ctrl', and when you find the action 'Close page',
>double-click it to alter it: enter 'Close page & Switch to next page'.
>It should now look like this:
>
>w ctrl | Close page & Switch to next page
>
>Click 'OK', and 'OK' again to close the preferences. It should now work as
>you want!
That did the trick. Thanks very much!
One last question. The entry "'Close page & Switch to next
page" isn't there in a drop down list or anything like that.
How is a person supposed to know that you can type in a
particular phrase to change the key assignment? I mean, the
phrase you gave me is logical and it works, but on my own
I'd have no way of knowing that a specific phrase works that
way. Does Opera have a site where I look up stuff like
this?
Thanks again.
Bob Stringer
<ri...@opera.com> wrote:
Hi Rijk,
>Apart from changing the behavior of CTrl+W, there are some other ways to
>close multiple page quickly:
>
>* use the option 'close all but active' (if you want to keep only one page
>open)
> Ctrl+Alt+W, also from context menu of the Page bar
That one I knew, but the next is a new one on me.
>* use the Windows panel in the Hotlist, handy when you want to close a lot
> of pages Ctrl+7 to quickly open it, select the page that should be closed, press
> Delete
Very nice. I don't think it's as quick as Ctrl + W if I
have a series of windows all next to each other, as in my
original question, since Ctrl + W + W + W + W is pretty
quick. But I can see using Ctrl + 7 in a variety of other
situations.
Thanks very much.
Kevin W.
> page" isn't there in a drop down list or anything like that.
> How is a person supposed to know that you can type in a
> particular phrase to change the key assignment?
"Close page" is in the dropdown list, and so is "Switch to next page".
From learning by example (or these newsgroups), you can figure out that
"&" joins two commands together, doing one after the other.
The keyboard setup editor isn't exactly crucial for newbies to use, though
maybe some documentation of it is due.
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> The keyboard setup editor isn't exactly crucial for newbies to use,
> though maybe some documentation of it is due.
You can just start typing. When you put the & or | after the first entry,
the dropdown opens once more and lets you select another command.
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Bob Stringer
<kev...@fastem-dot-com.invalid> wrote:
>"Close page" is in the dropdown list, and so is "Switch to next page".
My problem was that I had no idea there was a drop down
list. In fact, it didn't even realize it after I was told
what to enter in the box, since all I did was copy and paste
the new phrase. I had no idea what "dropdown list" you were
talking about until I read Roland's message about its
appearing after you type "&."
> From learning by example (or these newsgroups), you can figure out that
>"&" joins two commands together, doing one after the other.
I suppose I can now, and I do appreciate the help I get
here, but I sure couldn't have figured it out earlier. It
simply never would have occurred to me that something was
supposed to happen like magic if I merely typed in "&."
I still wonder how any user figures out this kind of stuff
the first time.
>The keyboard setup editor isn't exactly crucial for newbies to use, though
>maybe some documentation of it is due.
I think it surely is due. I love using Opera, but the "help
file" is the pits. Given how simply some of the explanations
are -- as witness the present subject -- I don't understand
why Opera doesn't take the very brief amount of time it
would require to provide useful directions on how its
product works.
Thanks for the advice.
Bob Stringer
<rolandNO...@gmx.de> wrote:
>You can just start typing. When you put the & or | after the first entry,
>the dropdown opens once more and lets you select another command.
Thanks for the suggestion. My problem was that I never
realized that just typing would produce a dropdown list.