Starting Opera minimized
allan johnson
a way to accomplish this? I have the same problem with netscape. They insist on opening in a full window.
Thanks.
Allan Johnson
Phil Burns
In Win95/98 should be able to start any program minimized at startup by adding the line to win.ini about the
third line down... load=C:\Opera\Opera.exe (or is it the run= line? I can never remember without trying,
anyway one starts max and one min). You can easily open win.ini for editing by typing sysedit in the
start/run box.
Does anybody know if this is the same in NT? I use NT often, but have never tried.
Phil
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Windows 98 v4.10.1998
98lite STANDARD Edition 2.0.6
Opera 3.61. Opwic v 1.06
486 DX2/66. 28MB RAM. 500MB HD.
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Robert Carnegie
>On Sun, 02 Jan 2000 14:24:21 GMT, allang...@home.com (allan johnson)
wrote:
>> I run Opera on Windows NT and would like to include it
>> in my startup menu to start minimized. So far I've
>> been unable to make it work by configuring the shortcut
>> to run the program minimized. Does anyone know of a
>> way to accomplish this? I have the same problem with
>> netscape. They insist on opening in a full window.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Allan Johnson
>>
>Hi Alan,
>
> In Win95/98 should be able to start any program minimized at startup
> by adding the line to win.ini about the third line down...
> load=C:\Opera\Opera.exe (or is it the run= line? I can never
> remember without trying, anyway one starts max and one min).
> You can easily open win.ini for editing by typing sysedit in the
> start/run box.
>
> Does anybody know if this is the same in NT? I use NT often, but have
> never tried.
Offhand I don't know if NT has it, or how it would works in NT's
login/logout context instead of desktop Windows' run-when-Windows-starts.
I do remember (so there) that "load=" is for minimised programs and "run="
is for normal windows. An interesting effect is that unlike icons in
the "StartUp" Start menu or "StartUp" Program Manager group,
the programs listed on these WIN.INI lines still run if you're
holding down the Shift key (the "skip StartUp programs" key).
Win 3.1 / NT 3.5x Program Manager icons and Win 95 / NT 4.0 Start Menu
shortcuts can both run the specified program minimised instead of
full-screen. But I use at least one program on NT that ignores this,
or I used to. (It was that proxy server I was always grousing about.)
Does Opera respect the "Run Minimised" setting, or not? Maybe Opera
ignores it _if_ you ran it in full screen mode last time
(function key F11), or something like that?
I don't have access to NT till Wednesday, and I don't want to put
Opera on the NT servers right now anyway, but its behaviour on other
platforms with respect to "Run Minimised" should be a pointer to what
Allan wants. But as I'm writing this in Opera, I also can't quit
and restart it to see what happens here (Win 3.1). Wait a minute,
yes I can: my dialer just died, so I'm going to have to reboot to get
it back (this box has serial port problems). Let's see, now.
Right. Opera ignores "Run Minimised" in Win 3.1. Also, if run via
the "Load=" line in Win.ini, it runs normal-size. However, run
that way, it's not included in the Alt+Tab list of applications.
Interesting; useful, maybe. It keeps it out of the way nearly as
well as minimising it.
If Allan's on NT 4, one other not very satisfactory workaround would be to
write these lines into a text file called Opera.bat (or Opera.cmd) in
StartUp:
pause
cd "c:\program files\opera"
start opera.exe
This will run a command window, minimised if you like, that hangs about
until you switch into it and press a key to un-pause it. Then it
starts Opera and closes the command window.
Another workaround: shrink Opera's window small (down to just the title
bar?) and save settings that way. It'll reload in the same state, and
you can press F11 to maximise it.
Another for 4.0: download one of those utilities indexed at
http://shareware.cnet.com/ which can take any application and hide it
in the system tray at bottom left. Can Opera get out of that?
It's worth trying. Now, is there another of these which wraps
up those applications which don't run minimised?
Another: make item 1 in the StartUp group - or the batch file -
Opera, and item 2 is one of those utilities which minimises all
currently running applications. Then Opera will start and then
immediately get minimised.
Robert Carnegie
Glasgow, Scotland
Phil Burns
wrote:
<snippy snip>
> Another for 4.0: download one of those utilities indexed at
> http://shareware.cnet.com/ which can take any application and hide it
> in the system tray at bottom left. Can Opera get out of that?
> It's worth trying. Now, is there another of these which wraps
> up those applications which don't run minimised?
Or use Joe Segurs' Opwic and Opwitray, putting a shortcut to Opwitray z in the Startup
group will put a one click icon to Opera in the system tray.
allan johnson
it. If I minimize Opera before closing the program by shutting down
NT, when NT starts again, it opens Opera minimized on the task
bar. Apparently telling Opera to "save windows" for the next
startup is enough to get it to save the minimized condition of the
window when the program is closed.
Thanks for your suggestions.
Allan Johnson