Viewing XML in Opera
Milhouse Van Houten
consists of (whether it's a summary or full feed, etc) before subscribing to
it in my aggregator, and I've noticed in Opera that the information is
presented as a lump, while in IE and Firefox it's nicely formatted and even
color-coded. Am I right to assume there's a way to make this happen in
Opera? Here's an example:
http://www.osnews.com/files/recent.rdf
Simon Gabriel
<bt...@myrealbox.com>:
> Once in a while, I'll click on an XML icon to see what someone's RSS feed
> consists of (whether it's a summary or full feed, etc) before
> subscribing to
>
Opera suscribes the respective RSS-feed automatocally with its reader.
Milhouse Van Houten
news:opsa5htyooeq49se@simon...
>
> Opera suscribes the respective RSS-feed automatocally with its reader.
It doesn't for me (I don't use Opera's mail), and I wouldn't want it to. You
should be able to view a raw XML document with a browser, right?
Andrew Urquhart
IE uses XSLT to do this (view the following proprietary URI in
WinIE5.5+: res://msxml.dll/defaultss.xsl) but Opera doesn't support it.
A CSS sheet is the next best thing though and some RSS feeds already
contain a processing instruction to suggest CSS presentation. If no such
sheet is specified in the XML document you could add your own, e.g. for
an Atom feed you could view source on the feed, paste in after the XML
declaration:
<?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css"
type="text/css"?>
and then save the XML file and use the *refresh display* option in
Opera.
Unfortunately the biggest problem is that I don't seem to be able to
turn off Opera's RSS feed viewer, it always springs to life and hijacks
a feed :-(
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Nils Breunese
wrote:
Before Opera had the RSS capabilities, that was all you got: a raw XML
document, which is nothing but text. You might as well open it in a text
editor, you'd see the same thing. IE and Firefox probably use some sort of
stylesheet to display the XML file. XML is only the data (content), you'd
need a separate layout definition to show it in a fancy way. Apparently
when such a definition is not present those browsers render the XML in a
default way. You could probably create a user stylesheet for the same
effect.
breun.
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Milhouse Van Houten
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>
> Unfortunately the biggest problem is that I don't seem to be able to
> turn off Opera's RSS feed viewer, it always springs to life and hijacks
> a feed :-(
Thanks all for the input.
And you use Opera Mail I assume, right? If you don't care about mail, I
think unchecking the Mail option in Preferences should make Opera ignore
RSS.
exclipy
> think unchecking the Mail option in Preferences should make Opera ignore
> RSS.
Yes and yes. There's a stylesheet that you can download somewhere that
makes the RSS display prettily displayed without needing the Mail
component.
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Toman
>> And you use Opera Mail I assume, right? If you don't care about mail, I
>> think unchecking the Mail option in Preferences should make Opera ignore
>> RSS.
>
> Yes and yes. There's a stylesheet that you can download somewhere that
> makes the RSS display prettily displayed without needing the Mail
> component.
<http://home.no.net/polynar/opera/v7/custom/custom_css.php#rssread>
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Andrew Urquhart
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>>
>> Unfortunately the biggest problem is that I don't seem to be able to
>> turn off Opera's RSS feed viewer, it always springs to life and
>> hijacks a feed :-(
>
> Thanks all for the input.
>
> And you use Opera Mail I assume, right?
No, but if I disable M2 (uncheck 'Enable mail and chat') the RSS viewer
still hijacks a feed regardless. Unfortunately then there is no menu
option to remove the feed because the mail menu is disabled with
disabling M2!
> If you don't care about
> mail, I think unchecking the Mail option in Preferences should make
> Opera ignore RSS.
I agree that it *should*, yes :-)
Chris Game
>> Yes and yes. There's a stylesheet that you can download
>> somewhere that makes the RSS display prettily displayed
>> without needing the Mail component.
>
> <http://home.no.net/polynar/opera/v7/custom/custom_css.php#rssread>
Interesting; any way of getting O. to recognise a RSS page and using
the appropriate style sheet automatically?
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Toman
wrote:
> Toman wrote:
>
>>> Yes and yes. There's a stylesheet that you can download
>>> somewhere that makes the RSS display prettily displayed
>>> without needing the Mail component.
>>
>> <http://home.no.net/polynar/opera/v7/custom/custom_css.php#rssread>
>
> Interesting; any way of getting O. to recognise a RSS page and using
> the appropriate style sheet automatically?
Using that stylesheet all the time doesn't affect normal browsing since it
doesn't try to do anything to anything but RSS pages. Just follow the
instructions in the stylesheet and Opera will automatically format the
feed.
Chris Game
> Using that stylesheet all the time doesn't affect normal browsing
> since it doesn't try to do anything to anything but RSS pages.
> Just follow the instructions in the stylesheet and Opera will
> automatically format the feed.
Thanks for the hint - I'll copy and paste the useful lines into my
user style sheet.
(Phew! What's this bogus|title stuff?)
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we are sixteen." -- Albert Einstein
Toman
wrote:
> Toman wrote:
>
>> Using that stylesheet all the time doesn't affect normal browsing
>> since it doesn't try to do anything to anything but RSS pages.
>> Just follow the instructions in the stylesheet and Opera will
>> automatically format the feed.
>
> Thanks for the hint - I'll copy and paste the useful lines into my
> user style sheet.
>
> (Phew! What's this bogus|title stuff?)
Dont ask ;) (It makes sure the rule doesn't apply to normal <title>'s..
Lets me keep less selectors :) )
Milhouse Van Houten
>
> No, but if I disable M2 (uncheck 'Enable mail and chat') the RSS viewer
> still hijacks a feed regardless. Unfortunately then there is no menu
> option to remove the feed because the mail menu is disabled with
> disabling M2!
>
>> If you don't care about
>> mail, I think unchecking the Mail option in Preferences should make
>> Opera ignore RSS.
>
> I agree that it *should*, yes :-)
Weird. Maybe it comes from having once used Mail before disabling it, or
something carried over from a previous version? All I know is that I started
with the current version, unchecked Mail/Chat almost right away (never run),
and I've never even seen the RSS viewer.