Opera startup time horribly slow
Hagge
I've never felt that Opera has been very fast at starting up from
scratch -but lately it seems like it's become alot slower. Almost
takes an entire minute before the browser window even opens. =(
Whats taking so friggin long? How could I speed up the startup?
I've already done some changes, like disabled the speed dial, turned
off automatic mail and rss updates, and more.
Aaron W. Hsu
What version of Opera are you using?
I've noticed that the Betas seem to do quite well in starting up, though
Opera was never as fast at start up as some of the other browsers if you
had mail and other features working. That makes sense, given that the time
it takes to start the equivalent program functionality using a combination
of, say, Firefox + Thunderbird + XChat + Transmission + ..., takes a
while, and Opera is very fast given all the features that it has in it
(and lean).
You might want to check the indexes or cache, as I think clearing some
stuff and having them start over was one way of improving them.
On the other hand, if you are using the Betas, there was some kind of work
going on to do automatic integrity checking of mail and feed accounts, I
believe. Initially, I think this ran every time on start up, and I don't
know when they moved this out and started doing it according to some other
metric (which makes it feel much faster).
Aaron W. Hsu
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Hagge
Anyway, when I'm looking for updates it says that I've already got the
latest one)
I've already cleared my
Where are the 'indexes' located?
<Opera was never as fast at start up as some of the other browsers if
you had mail and other features working>
Yeah, I figured so. But I have edited an ini-file, to delay the
startup time for the mail and rss services to a couple minuts after
startup, -and didn't get any noticeable improvements in startup time.
Eik
> <Opera was never as fast at start up as some of the other browsers if
> you had mail and other features working>
> Yeah, I figured so. But I have edited an ini-file, to delay the
> startup time for the mail and rss services to a couple minuts after
> startup, -and didn't get any noticeable improvements in startup time.
The mail and news doesn't really affect the start-up time as they're tiny
components, with most of the required functionality being provided with
the parts that are needed for the browser anyway.
The most common things that slow down the start-up time are long history
lists or a large cache. does it help of you clear your cache and history
list (including typed-in URLs?)
Whether it's Opera 7 or 10, it's always taken 8 second to start up the
first time on my 3Ghz P4 machine with 512MB. I haven't seen recent
versions get any faster or slower at starting, though I've seen
improvements when it comes to rendering pages more quickly under certain
circumstances. I have my history limits set to 10 typed-in addresses, 1000
for the history list and 100MB for the disk cache.
I also keep the drive I've installed Opera on defragged, and the drive
containing the profile and mail folders as defragged as possible.
Lee Harvey
news:03184a6d-06db-48b7...@o32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Sadly, Opera's mail storage file structure is quite inefficient. I highly
recommend removing old (and large) messages in your Opera message store,
then defrag your disk regularly.
Likewise, you may be interested in using two separate Opera installations
like others do (including me): one install for fast browsing; and the other
for everything else (mail, news, RSS, chat, etc). For more info, see Rijk's
Hugin and Munin setups (see his note @ top of his page for Opera 9.x):
http://people.opera.com/rijk/opera/huginmunin.html
Finally, some of the tweaks mentioned on this page are still relevant for
9.x:
http://operawiki.info/OperaPerformance
Enjoy.
Hagge
typed-in URLs?)>
< I have my history limits set to 10 typed-in addresses, 1000 for the
history list and 100MB for the disk cache.>
Where do I check 'typed-in adresses' ? Didn't see it in the
preferences.
<I highly recommend removing old (and large) messages in your Opera
message store, then defrag your disk regularly.>
take too long to switch between browsers just to check something.
Think I'll try reinstalling my entire Opera (and if that doesn't help,
I'll have to switch to FF or Safari)
Can't live like this. Think it took one and a half minutes to start it
up today.
Aaron W. Hsu
> Can't live like this. Think it took one and a half minutes to start it
> up today.
That's not normal.
Eik
> Where do I check 'typed-in adresses' ? Didn't see it in the
> preferences.
Ah, that's been removed in modern versions, I see. It seems the history
system was rewritten so that now there's just one URL history list. If you
load opera:config and enter 'history lines' into the search, three
settings should show up that affect your history list, the middle one
being the same setting from the GUI dialogue. But if your settings are
alrealy low, I doubt this is the cause of your slow start-ups.
> Think I'll try reinstalling my entire Opera (and if that doesn't help,
> I'll have to switch to FF or Safari)
> Can't live like this. Think it took one and a half minutes to start it
> up today.
Then there's definately something wrong. It should take a few seconds even
on an old machine like mine, so I don't know if some of your files are
corrupt or something, but a clean installation is a good idea. Install
another copy of Opera to a different folder and run it side-by-side to see
if it's any quicker before doing anything to your normal instalation.
Also, do you know if Opera is using a lot of CPU for that minute and a
half it takes to start?
Lee Harvey
> Think it took one and a half minutes to start it up today.
You might want to use FileMon[1] or ProcMon[2] to determine what Opera is
doing during this startup time. My guess is that it's churning through your
mail files. And if so, time to delete some, then defrag your disks.
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[1] http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896642.aspx
[2] http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx
itsme
How many times would you start opera from scratch? shit if 1.5 minutes out
of your day is too much ,maybe you WOULD be better going to something else.
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Hagge
seconds!
What a difference.
Must've been something SERIOUSLY WRONG with my previous one.
>How many times would you start opera from scratch? shit if 1.5 minutes out
> of your day is too much ,maybe you WOULD be better going to something else.
Sure, 1.5 minutes is not alot of time...it's just that it's about 1
minutes and 45 seconds longer than it should be ^^ which is annoying
as hell.
Sanford Aranoff
restart in 8 seconds. During the night, various things
running, like virus checkers and such. Why the first startup
slow?
Aaron W. Hsu
<ara...@analysis-knowledge.com> wrote:
> Why the first startup
> slow?
Do you have a large mail/RSS/Newsgroup index? Opera (for me) slows down in
some relation to the size of the mailbox, I would guess logarithmically
proportional.
Fritz Oppliger
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:04:10 -0700, Aaron W. Hsu <arc...@sacrideo.us>
wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:09:05 -0400, Sanford Aranoff
> <ara...@analysis-knowledge.com> wrote:
>
>> Why the first startup
>> slow?
>
> Do you have a large mail/RSS/Newsgroup index? Opera (for me) slows down
> in some relation to the size of the mailbox, I would guess
> logarithmically proportional.
>
So how do you manage the large index? Is there a way of archiving while
still having reasonably quick and familiar access to ancient mail?
Aaron W. Hsu
<fritzatfri...@where.ever> wrote:
> So how do you manage the large index? Is there a way of archiving while
> still having reasonably quick and familiar access to ancient mail?
Archiving it inherently makes it less available. If you want it quickly
and easily, I would just take the accepted hit in start up performance
(which isn't just related to mail index size). Keep in mind that other
things like cache seem to be related to start-up performance. Others have
reported that keeping the cache small has helped with start-up times.
I had about 3,000,000 or more newsgroup articles in my mail index from
before 2009, and Opera took about one minute or so to start up for me. I
didn't need all those, and I dropped everything not from 2009. This lead
to Opera starting in about 30 seconds. Still, I don't change or optimize
my cache settings. I also still have a little less than 400,000 messages
in my Received box, including Newsgroups and Feeds.
Aaron W. Hsu
<fritzatfri...@where.ever> wrote:
> Is there a way of archiving while still having reasonably quick and
> familiar access to ancient mail?
If you can accept some slowdown in acceess, you might look at just
exporting the old messages to mbox files. You can then search through
these with any decent editor or Grep.
Sanford Aranoff
Use EmailDatabase. Uses a relational database. Instant
startup regardless of size.
www.analysis-knowledge.com
Leo H
wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:09:05 -0400, Sanford Aranoff
> <ara...@analysis-knowledge.com> wrote:
>
>> Why the first startup
>> slow?
>
> Do you have a large mail/RSS/Newsgroup index? Opera (for me) slows down
> in some relation to the size of the mailbox, I would guess
> logarithmically proportional.
>
> Aaron W. Hsu
>
I just timed startup between exiting Opera and starting it again (~5
seconds) and after a power cycle (~15 seconds for general system startup,
~30 second after that for Opera startup.
I have near 4,000 messages stored. The place where I would like faster
operation is in search for items not previously indexed. And I wonder why
there are so many since I thought (maybe incorrectly) that Opera does
continuous indexing in the background,
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Opera forces us to use that ineptly named "Speed Dial" (as if naming something so slow "speed dial" will fool us into thinking it loads quickly).
I get so tired of waiting for the new tab to load, watching the spinning wheel. And it forces you to wait on it before you can go to a different page. If you click on a link to google or some other bookmarked page you still have to wait for that horribly slow speed dial to load before it will load the new page.
There used to be a way to disable speed dial but Opera got rid of it.
I am looking for a different browser now.
Auric__
that don't work, I use Chrome.
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JJ
>
> I'm still using 12.18. Works just fine, for the most part. For those sites
> that don't work, I use Chrome.
and/or newsgroup databases already contain many messages (at least 1000).
Nevertheless, it still load faster than Opera Blink.
GrailKing
> On Friday, July 24, 2009 at 7:01:40 PM UTC-4, Hagge wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I've never felt that Opera has been very fast at starting up from
>> scratch -but lately it seems like it's become alot slower. Almost takes
>> an entire minute before the browser window even opens. =(
>>
>> Whats taking so friggin long? How could I speed up the startup? I've
>> already done some changes, like disabled the speed dial, turned off
>> automatic mail and rss updates, and more.
>
> I see this problem has been going on for a long time. It still loads
> slowly. But what is even worse now is the time to load a new tab.
> Opera forces us to use that ineptly named "Speed Dial" (as if naming
> something so slow "speed dial" will fool us into thinking it loads
> quickly).
> I get so tired of waiting for the new tab to load, watching the spinning
> wheel. And it forces you to wait on it before you can go to a different
> page. If you click on a link to google or some other bookmarked page you
> still have to wait for that horribly slow speed dial to load before it
> will load the new page.
> There used to be a way to disable speed dial but Opera got rid of it.
>
> I am looking for a different browser now.
but yeah the speeddial is annoying.
