How to pronounce Opera?
R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
or any other pronunciation?
Sorry, I couldn't find it by googling. TIA.
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Matthew Winn
> How to pronounce Opera? As in 1 or 2 at <http://www.answers.com/opera>?
> or any other pronunciation?
I pronounce it the first way. The second way is the plural of "opus",
who is a penguin and has nothing to do with web browsing.
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Tim Altman
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>On 29 Jun 2005 22:01:20 -0700, R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah <ng4rrj...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>> How to pronounce Opera? As in 1 or 2 at <http://www.answers.com/opera>?
>> or any other pronunciation?
>
>I pronounce it the first way. The second way is the plural of "opus",
>who is a penguin and has nothing to do with web browsing.
Heh. I usually pronounce it the first way, also. That is the
basis for the name Opera[1], after all. However, Norwegians tend to
pronounce it a bit differently. The "O" sound in Norwegian doesn't
exist in English, so I don't really know what to compare it too.
[1] http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=145
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R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:23:58 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Winn
> <o*@matthewwinn.me.urk> wrote:
> >On 29 Jun 2005 22:01:20 -0700, R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah <ng4rrj...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
> >> How to pronounce Opera? As in 1 or 2 at <http://www.answers.com/opera>?
> >> or any other pronunciation?
> >
> >I pronounce it the first way. The second way is the plural of "opus",
> >who is a penguin and has nothing to do with web browsing.
>
> Heh. I usually pronounce it the first way, also.
Many thanks to both of you. But, everyone I have seen here (India)
pronounce like the second one (Oh-pera). I think, it has to be in
official documentation.
Tim Altman
<ng4rrj...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>Tim Altman wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:23:58 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Winn
>> <o*@matthewwinn.me.urk> wrote:
>> >On 29 Jun 2005 22:01:20 -0700, R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah <ng4rrj...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>> >> How to pronounce Opera? As in 1 or 2 at <http://www.answers.com/opera>?
>> >> or any other pronunciation?
>> >
>> >I pronounce it the first way. The second way is the plural of "opus",
>> >who is a penguin and has nothing to do with web browsing.
>>
>> Heh. I usually pronounce it the first way, also.
> <snip>
>
> Many thanks to both of you. But, everyone I have seen here (India)
>pronounce like the second one (Oh-pera). I think, it has to be in
>official documentation.
I was thinking about that yesterday. I'll send a message to our
knowledge base crew to see if they can add a sound clip to the article
I mentioned.
Rijk van Geijtenbeek
<ng4rrj...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
> Tim Altman wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:23:58 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Winn
>> <o*@matthewwinn.me.urk> wrote:
>> >On 29 Jun 2005 22:01:20 -0700, R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
>> <ng4rrj...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>> >> How to pronounce Opera? As in 1 or 2 at
>> <http://www.answers.com/opera>?
>> >> or any other pronunciation?
>> >
>> >I pronounce it the first way. The second way is the plural of "opus",
>> >who is a penguin and has nothing to do with web browsing.
>>
>> Heh. I usually pronounce it the first way, also.
> <snip>
>
> Many thanks to both of you. But, everyone I have seen here (India)
> pronounce like the second one (Oh-pera).
In The Netherlands, they say it like that as well. But it's the same for
the musical art form.
> I think, it has to be in official documentation.
I don't think we mind if people pronounce it differently. The Oh-pera
version at least minimizes the confusion with the 'Oprah' of the American
talk show host:
http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=304
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On 1-Jul-2005, "Rijk van Geijtenbeek" <ri...@opera.com> wrote:
> I don't think we mind if people pronounce it differently. The Oh-pera
> version at least minimizes the confusion with the 'Oprah' of the American
> talk show host:
Apparently her name is a misspelling of "Opera".
I have seen a few posts in this newsgroup from people interested in opera. I
expect there would be a lot more if these messages weren't in their own Opera
news server.
Not many Americans seem to be aware that opera is the plural of opus.
Jordi Kroon
wrote:
> Apparently her name is a misspelling of "Opera".
>
I've heard it's a misspelling for Orpah, a biblical name from the Book of
Ruth.
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Pascal Ricard
Hi Tim.
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:04:56 +0200, Tim Altman wrote in message
<l4d7c11mtgbq2rc5g...@4ax.com>:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:23:58 +0000 (UTC), Matthew Winn
> <o*@matthewwinn.me.urk> wrote:
>
>> On 29 Jun 2005 22:01:20 -0700, R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
>> <ng4rrj...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>>> How to pronounce Opera? As in 1 or 2 at
>>> <http://www.answers.com/opera>?
>>> or any other pronunciation?
I don't know why I cannot hear the pronounciations on that site. I've told
opera to open the mime type in WMP instead of O, this didn't work. I have
then installed the QT plugin and told O to use it, to no avail. JS is
enabled, of course. Other sounds, like a wav file in a bgsound tag, play
correctly.
Any idea?
Pascal
Bill Hallman
<jordikATg...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:43:23 +0200, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Apparently her name is a misspelling of "Opera".
>>
>
> I've heard it's a misspelling for Orpah, a biblical name from the Book
> of Ruth.
>
I have always thought it was Harpo spelled backwards, after Harpo Marx,
brother of Groucho Marx.
Harpo didn't talk, Oprah doesn't stop talking.
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>
> I have always thought it was Harpo spelled backwards, after Harpo Marx,
> brother of Groucho Marx.
>
> Harpo didn't talk, Oprah doesn't stop talking.
>
Leo H
wrote:
FWIW, I believe the production company associated with Oprah is called
"Harpo Productions"
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R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
<snip>
> I don't think we mind if people pronounce it differently. The Oh-pera
> version at least minimizes the confusion with the 'Oprah' of the American
> talk show host
Here in India, some people pronounce Opera and Oprah same.
Some common usage here:
Opera:
1. Oh-pa-raah (pa is short.) (almost 95% use this version)
2. Oh-pey-raah (pey as like pay or pei) (very few. this version just
started, especially among programmers. So, I'd thought this is the
right one)
3. ahprah (no one use this right version here)
Oprah:
1. Ohpraah (many use this version)
2. Oh-pa-raah (Same as Opera)
FACE
<ng4rrj...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
> 3. ahprah (no one use this right version here)
Finally, one i can relate to. :-)
I think that most Americans pronounce it that way with the stress on the
first syllable, i.e., AH-prah. The "prah" is actually "per-ah" with the two
syllables run together as one in pronunciation. In pure text it is hard to
describe pronunciations. I have no idea how you are internally pronouncing
the words that i am writing, but in the end, it makes no difference --as in
this case so long as we both know we are talking about the character string
O-P-E-R-A.
FACE
Richard Grevers
I can't say I've ever heard the O pronounced with 'ah' or any other sort
of 'a' sound. Here in the Pacific the universal pronounciation would be a
short o as in "stop" or "orange".
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Ted Schuerzinger
wrote in news:op.stazspa5igav4j@richardg:
> I can't say I've ever heard the O pronounced with 'ah' or any other
> sort of 'a' sound. Here in the Pacific the universal pronounciation
> would be a short o as in "stop" or "orange".
In many parts of the US, the sounds represented by the O's in "stop" and
"orange" are different. :-) For many people, the O in "stop" is the
same as the "ah" sound. The O in "orange" is much closer to the -aw sound
in "saw" or "awe", especially if you're from Noo Yawk. (In my Russian
phonetics class in St. Petersburg many years back the professor recognized
me as a Noo Yawkah by the way I tried to pronounce the Russian O. ;-)
On the other hand, at least we Americans pronounce R's where they appear
in words, instead of moving them around like the Brits. :-p
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FACE
Insofar as "stop" we are talking about the same sound. As to "orange" --
you Kiwis sure do pronounce that funny. ;-)
FACE
Richard Grevers
> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:42:15 +1200, in opera.general "Richard Grevers"
> <newsr...@dramatic.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:43:04 +1200, FACE <AFacein...@today.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1 Jul 2005 19:18:03 -0700, in opera.general "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah"
>>> <ng4rrj...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 3. ahprah (no one use this right version here)
>>>
>> I can't say I've ever heard the O pronounced with 'ah' or any other sort
>> of 'a' sound. Here in the Pacific the universal pronounciation would be
>> a
>> short o as in "stop" or "orange".
>
> Insofar as "stop" we are talking about the same sound. As to "orange" --
> you Kiwis sure do pronounce that funny. ;-)
>
This is whay the experts resort to phonetic alphabets that require a
linguistics degree to understand :-) If you write "ah" I think of
something rhyming with Shah (or like far but with a slight aspiration
instead of the r.
FACE
<newsr...@dramatic.co.nz> wrote:
>On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 11:58:56 +1200, FACE <AFacein...@today.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:42:15 +1200, in opera.general "Richard Grevers"
>> <newsr...@dramatic.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 00:43:04 +1200, FACE <AFacein...@today.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1 Jul 2005 19:18:03 -0700, in opera.general "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah"
>>>> <ng4rrj...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 3. ahprah (no one use this right version here)
>>>>
>>> I can't say I've ever heard the O pronounced with 'ah' or any other sort
>>> of 'a' sound. Here in the Pacific the universal pronounciation would be
>>> a
>>> short o as in "stop" or "orange".
>>
>> Insofar as "stop" we are talking about the same sound. As to "orange" --
>> you Kiwis sure do pronounce that funny. ;-)
>>
>This is whay the experts resort to phonetic alphabets that require a
>linguistics degree to understand :-) If you write "ah" I think of
>something rhyming with Shah (or like far but with a slight aspiration
>instead of the r.
Concerning the initial sound, try:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?opera001.wav=opera
For the "pera" that site gives a more formal sound -- two distinct syllables
-- than I, or most of those in my region, usually give it. But then we
often say "BAT-tree" for battery around these parts.
Like I told the previous poster from India, it really makes not difference
so long as you know you are talking about the same character string.
And like computer terminology, I can formal it up or dumb it down depending
on who i am talking to. (or to whom I am talking.) : Ya know what i mean?
:-)
FACE
Tim Altman
They are .wav files, which Opera can handle internally. Make
sure audio/wav is set to open with Opera and you should be all set.
Pascal Ricard
Hi Tim.
On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:37:29 +0200, Tim Altman wrote in message
<t8thc15hus4mqq0ld...@4ax.com>:
This *is* the default setting in Opera. It didn't work, this is why I
tried a third party plugin.
If not in Opera, where should I set this?
(win xp)
Pascal
Fig
There's more to it than this. When Opera is ID as IE (which I believe is
the default setting) then for some reason the Javascript function 'playIt'
is not, errr, functioning. Javascript is not in my area of expertise, so I
can't tell you why, but ID as Opera or Moz and it works fine (a page
refresh is needed after changing ID)
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Pascal Ricard
Hi Fig.
On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 21:13:27 +0200, Fig wrote in message
<op.stek0...@news.opera.no>:
> There's more to it than this. When Opera is ID as IE (which I believe is
> the default setting) then for some reason the Javascript function
> 'playIt' is not, errr, functioning. Javascript is not in my area of
> expertise, so I can't tell you why, but ID as Opera or Moz and it works
> fine (a page refresh is needed after changing ID)
You're right! First time I see something like this, needing IDing all but
as IE :-)
Thanx for the help.
Pascal
Howard Brazee
On 2-Jul-2005, "Richard Grevers" <newsr...@dramatic.co.nz> wrote:
> I can't say I've ever heard the O pronounced with 'ah' or any other sort
> of 'a' sound. Here in the Pacific the universal pronounciation would be a
> short o as in "stop" or "orange".
Interesting. In the US, the O in "Opera" is pronounced like the O in "stop",
but not at all like the O in "orange".
Howard Brazee
On 2-Jul-2005, Ted Schuerzinger <fe...@bestweb.spam> wrote:
> On the other hand, at least we Americans pronounce R's where they appear
> in words, instead of moving them around like the Brits. :-p
A big difference in the way USAmericans pronounce words and the way Brits
pronounce words may be due to the fact that USAmerican ancestors were literate
before they learned English, and assumed more words were pronounced the way they
were spelled. Brits already knew how the words were pronounced when they
learned to spell.