Speed dial buttons disappeared
Auric__
moment.
I opened a new tab, and discovered that all of my speed dial buttons were
gone. I have no idea if I did anything that would've made them go, but
they're gone. (I didn't intentionally delete any of them, that's for sure.)
Seems to be somewhat similar to the problem mentioned in Message-ID:
<33818121-22f7-497c...@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com>
Luckily, I have my old speeddial.ini backed up, but I really, really don't
want to have to copy it over every time I start Opera.
Ideas? Suggestions? I don't have enough info to file a bug report; "speed
dial buttons disappeared" is pretty vague, I think.
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ge...@none.net
Good place to check on something like this is Opera beta forum, where
you'll discover you're not alone (also mentioned by some in the
developers' blog comments, where you got 11.50). I wouldn't get too bent
about copying speeddial.ini over. Some of us used to copy that and
several other files over for years, before the updater became reliable.
Still do with each clean install and when the updater misses.
Gene
Auric__
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:08:12 +0000 (UTC)
> "Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote:
>
>> WinXP, tOpera Next 11.50 build 1040, no other version installed at
>> the moment.
>>
>> I opened a new tab, and discovered that all of my speed dial buttons
>> were gone. I have no idea if I did anything that would've made them
>> go, but they're gone. (I didn't intentionally delete any of them,
>> that's for sure.)
>>
>> Seems to be somewhat similar to the problem mentioned in Message-ID:
>> <33818121-22f7-497c...@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com>
>>
>> Luckily, I have my old speeddial.ini backed up, but I really, really
>> don't want to have to copy it over every time I start Opera.
>>
>> Ideas? Suggestions? I don't have enough info to file a bug report;
>> "speed dial buttons disappeared" is pretty vague, I think.
>
> Good place to check on something like this is Opera beta forum, where
> you'll discover you're not alone (also mentioned by some in the
> developers' blog comments, where you got 11.50).
I generally prefer to avoid web forums, mostly because I just don't like
them. (Stupid personal preferences...) Sigh. I suppose I'll take a look.
> I wouldn't get too bent
> about copying speeddial.ini over. Some of us used to copy that and
> several other files over for years, before the updater became reliable.
> Still do with each clean install and when the updater misses.
It's weird, because Next wipes the .ini clean at every start. Very annoying,
almost enough so to remove Next and just install whatever the current release
version is. (But I'll be reinstalling Windows very soon, so I'll probably
just wait until then.)
Of course, there are other changes that make me want to throttle Opera's
developers (for example, up to now, ctrl+click on an image, with or without a
link, has been "save image", now it's "open link in background tab"). I might
very well have found my limits to what I'm willing to deal with and still
stay with Opera. (The problem with that is, I don't really like anything
else. What to do, what to do...)
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ge...@none.net
"Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote:
> I generally prefer to avoid web forums, mostly because I just don't
> like them. (Stupid personal preferences...) Sigh. I suppose I'll take
> a look.
Using a forum for reference doesn't require hanging around. I'd make a
partial exception for the developers' blog, where skimming through one
picks up on problems others are having, and sometimes fixes.
> > I wouldn't get too bent
> > about copying speeddial.ini over. Some of us used to copy that and
> > several other files over for years, before the updater became
> > reliable. Still do with each clean install and when the updater
> > misses.
>
> It's weird, because Next wipes the .ini clean at every start. Very
> annoying, almost enough so to remove Next and just install whatever
> the current release version is. (But I'll be reinstalling Windows
> very soon, so I'll probably just wait until then.)
Not confirmed here on any Next build with xp/sp3. How are you doing
the update?
> Of course, there are other changes that make me want to throttle
> Opera's developers (for example, up to now, ctrl+click on an image,
> with or without a link, has been "save image", now it's "open link in
> background tab"). I might very well have found my limits to what I'm
> willing to deal with and still stay with Opera. (The problem with
> that is, I don't really like anything else. What to do, what to do...)
I don't know about that particular keystroke, but the latest build has
drawn some comments about changes on the developers' blog.
Gene
Auric__
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:17:44 +0000 (UTC)
> "Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote:
>
>> I generally prefer to avoid web forums, mostly because I just don't
>> like them. (Stupid personal preferences...) Sigh. I suppose I'll take
>> a look.
>
> Using a forum for reference doesn't require hanging around. I'd make a
> partial exception for the developers' blog, where skimming through one
> picks up on problems others are having, and sometimes fixes.
Ok.
>> > I wouldn't get too bent
>> > about copying speeddial.ini over. Some of us used to copy that and
>> > several other files over for years, before the updater became
>> > reliable. Still do with each clean install and when the updater
>> > misses.
>>
>> It's weird, because Next wipes the .ini clean at every start. Very
>> annoying, almost enough so to remove Next and just install whatever
>> the current release version is. (But I'll be reinstalling Windows
>> very soon, so I'll probably just wait until then.)
>
> Not confirmed here on any Next build with xp/sp3. How are you doing
> the update?
The app, or speed dial?
The app, I downloaded it from get.opera.com using wget, then installed
normally. (This is my first-ever install of Next; normally I stick with
released versions, and will be doing so in the future -- beta-testing isn't
for me.)
Speed dial... First, I ran Opera, then closed it. After it unloaded, I went
to "Application Data\Opera\Opera Next" and copied over the speeddial.ini from
my previous install. (Opera had never been installed on this machine before;
it was copied from another machine.)
After it was blanked for the first time, I repeated the above, thinking it
was a 1-time thing.
After it was blanked for the second time, I rebuilt it within Next one button
at a time.
After it was blanked for the third time, I gave up.
(I have Opera Link enabled, and before this install of Next, it worked just
fine with speed dial.)
>> Of course, there are other changes that make me want to throttle
>> Opera's developers (for example, up to now, ctrl+click on an image,
>> with or without a link, has been "save image", now it's "open link in
>> background tab"). I might very well have found my limits to what I'm
>> willing to deal with and still stay with Opera. (The problem with
>> that is, I don't really like anything else. What to do, what to do...)
>
> I don't know about that particular keystroke, but the latest build has
> drawn some comments about changes on the developers' blog.
Ok. I use the compatibility mode for keyboard shortcuts, but there's no such
thing for the mouse, sadly (and I can't edit the mouse shortcuts, much to my
annoyance).
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Anyway, nice to see that I made enough of an impact to be so feared
that I am considered one of the two prime evils.
ge...@none.net
"Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote:
> gene wrote:
> >
> > Not confirmed here on any Next build with xp/sp3. How are you doing
> > the update?
>
> The app, or speed dial?
>
> The app, I downloaded it from get.opera.com using wget, then
> installed normally. (This is my first-ever install of Next; normally
> I stick with released versions, and will be doing so in the future --
> beta-testing isn't for me.)
>
> Speed dial... First, I ran Opera, then closed it. After it unloaded,
> I went to "Application Data\Opera\Opera Next" and copied over the
> speeddial.ini from my previous install. (Opera had never been
> installed on this machine before; it was copied from another machine.)
>
> After it was blanked for the first time, I repeated the above,
> thinking it was a 1-time thing.
>
> After it was blanked for the second time, I rebuilt it within Next
> one button at a time.
>
> After it was blanked for the third time, I gave up.
Was Opera should closed when you copied SD.ini over? Also, check your
SD settings in opera:config > user prefs. There are three, including
the file location, and SD State should be = 1. I don't think you have
to create a SD file within Opera first, but that might be something to
try before the copy. Btw, first thing to do when the SD does appear is
to set (right click) each thumbnail to reload at some set interval.
They don't, but that works around a bug that appeared earlier on with
SD2.
Next update, you might consider just using Run instead of Save, closing
Opera when the update box opens, and using the Options install to make
sure you're getting only what (and where) you want.
Gene
ge...@none.net
A new build (1052) appears to speak to some of this.
Gene
Auric__
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:15:55 +0000 (UTC)
> "Auric__" <not.m...@email.address> wrote:
>
>> gene wrote:
>> >
>> > Not confirmed here on any Next build with xp/sp3. How are you doing
>> > the update?
>>
>> The app, or speed dial?
>>
>> The app, I downloaded it from get.opera.com using wget, then
>> installed normally. (This is my first-ever install of Next; normally
>> I stick with released versions, and will be doing so in the future --
>> beta-testing isn't for me.)
>>
>> Speed dial... First, I ran Opera, then closed it. After it unloaded,
>> I went to "Application Data\Opera\Opera Next" and copied over the
>> speeddial.ini from my previous install. (Opera had never been
>> installed on this machine before; it was copied from another machine.)
>>
>> After it was blanked for the first time, I repeated the above,
>> thinking it was a 1-time thing.
>>
>> After it was blanked for the second time, I rebuilt it within Next
>> one button at a time.
>>
>> After it was blanked for the third time, I gave up.
>
> Was Opera should closed when you copied SD.ini over?
It was totally unloaded; I watched in Process Explorer to make sure. (Typical
thing with me, really.)
> Also, check your
> SD settings in opera:config > user prefs. There are three, including
> the file location, and SD State should be = 1. I don't think you have
> to create a SD file within Opera first, but that might be something to
> try before the copy. Btw, first thing to do when the SD does appear is
> to set (right click) each thumbnail to reload at some set interval.
> They don't, but that works around a bug that appeared earlier on with
> SD2.
>
> Next update, you might consider just using Run instead of Save, closing
> Opera when the update box opens, and using the Options install to make
> sure you're getting only what (and where) you want.
I'll consider it, but I really prefer having a local copy of the installer,
which means saving. (Besides, I do it using wget, not Opera's downloader.)
Anyway, I removed Next and installed 11.11; problem solved. :-)
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John H Meyers
> there are other changes that make me want to throttle Opera's
> developers (for example, up to now, ctrl+click on an image, with or without
> a link, has been "save image", now it's "open link in background tab")
And Ctrl+Shift+T opens last closed tab.
Seems to be falling in line behind Chrome.
Except that O's "Secure site" icon is yellow and info is in blue :)
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/imitation-is-the-sincerest-form-of-flattery.html
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