Uses
Ken Babinchak
Netscape Version 4.72, so I downloaded Opera having heard so many great
things about it. I have never been so confused by a browser in my life.
Small download, big deal! Every time I wanted to send or receive an
e-mail it was more trouble than Outlook. All it was good for in the end
was downloading the latest version of Netscape, (bloated you say!? at
least it works!), then I got rid of the confusing little diversion.
Opera was annoying, and I don't want to go through a whole pile of tech
advice in order to understand it or any other program. Thank you.
geyh...@soback.kornet.net
wrote:
Every time I wanted to send or receive an
> e-mail it was more trouble than Outlook.
I look forward to the next version improving it.
Thomas Chah
Seoul, Korea
O4.02
Lucumo
<mrc...@connection.com> wrote:
And so you come in here, just ranting about Opera. I don't think
that's the best idea. Opera is Opera, there's nothing like it. Those
confusing things you call them, are the things that make us *LOVE*
Opera. You can tweak every little detail. Once you get used to it, you
never want anything else.
Opera developers: keep up the good work.
Luc
Chris Eaton
*tries looking at a page designed with CSS in Netscape*
Gee, still looks pretty broken.
Oh well.. you go back to your easy to use bloatware, and I'll stay here with
my customizable and fast browser that doesn't put pages through a blender
before rendering them.
Have a nice day!
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Chris Eaton
Network Administrator
Technical Management Resources Inc.
1-800-811-1456 ext.136
Rod Dav4is
that Opera *doesn't* do well at all! Take printing, ferinstance. Want page
numbers? Get Netscape or IE. Yes, Opera even has it's CSS omissions and
blunders. I'm reminded of my simple CSS example that still blows Opera clear out
of the water. And all the JavaScript and other problems that I have to switch
back to NS or IE for when I want to use certain pages.
Flexible? Let me see. How many *different* ways are there to adjust the page
rendering? Well, there's the magnification factor. That's right on the window
face. Then there is the font sizes and styles. That's collected on one
Preferences screen. And the CSS overrides? That's controlled by a button on the
window, but you have to learn CSS, edit a file and figure out the peculiar
"Presentation Modes" option settings to make it do something. Of course, the
presentation of links is something else, controlled from its own little menu --
and by the CSS, of course. That is, assuming that you have checked the proper
presentation modes. And images? They're controlled by yet another window button.
Which also controls whether the images print or not, but the rest of the
printing presentation is controlled from a totally different menu, not among the
preferences. And by the CSS, of course, which *is* among the preferences -- sort
of. And assuming that you, etc. etc. Oh, you wanted that page of frames to print
just as it displays? Sorry, only MSIE is that flexible; Opera only prints them
one frame per page. Almost useful.
I'm sure that I left some out. Yar, it's so flexible that it's limp!
-R.
ho...@dingoblue.net.au
<mrc...@connection.com> wrote:
> When I rebuilt my hard drive I couldn't download the latest
version
> Netscape Version 4.72, so I downloaded Opera having heard so many
great
> things about it. I have never been so confused by a browser in my
life.
> Small download, big deal! Every time I wanted to send or receive
an
> e-mail it was more trouble than Outlook. All it was good for in
the end
> was downloading the latest version of Netscape, (bloated you
say!? at
> least it works!), then I got rid of the confusing little
diversion.
> Opera was annoying, and I don't want to go through a whole pile
of tech
> advice in order to understand it or any other program. Thank you.
>
automatic like netscape with its auto crashes,auto security
breaches,etc etc, i will agree it takes a little getting used to,i
first tried it about 18 months ago and wasn`t impressed and went
back to it about 8 months and now wouldn`t have anything else but
O. i find the greatest asset to O is its able to be customised so
much more than the other Bloatware and that causes a few problems
with some users,if you don`t know something ASK!! you will not be
ridiculed for not knowing. good luck.
Samuli Lintula
>blunders. I'm reminded of my simple CSS example that still blows
>Opera clear out of the water.
I'm sorry, I can't help myself. I just need to say that nobody
has been able to show what part of the css actually didn't work
and caused the bad layout. There are some CSS omissions (such
as 'color' and 'background-color' for <select>'s) but they do
not make pages unusable.
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Samuli Lintula
samuli....@utu.fi http://users.utu.fi/saklint/vaali.html
University of Turku - Department of Biochemistry
Rod Dav4is
> >Yes, Opera even has it's CSS omissions and
> >blunders. I'm reminded of my simple CSS example that still blows
> >Opera clear out of the water.
>
> I'm sorry, I can't help myself. I just need to say that nobody
> has been able to show what part of the css actually didn't work
> and caused the bad layout.
Previously reported, and posted here and elsewhere numerous times:
http://dav4is.8m.com/TEST/tst89.html
Remove the CSS "H5 { display: run-in }" to stop the Opera crash.
I rest my case.
-R.