Installing Open Wonderland Problem

[PeteShea]

My college is attempting to install Open Wonderland on an Apple
Computer and on a HP Laptop with Windows. We have the required Java
plugins but the jar file is still giving us issues. I’ve accessed the
FAQ on the download page http://openwonderland.org/download/binary for
installation information, but we still have problems.

Any advice?

[Morris Ford]

Please include the log files/ console output that shows the problems.

[Nicole Yankelovich]

Peter,

Can you tell us what exactly happens when things go wrong? Here's a pointer to some information about how to capture console output and log files:

http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javadesktop/WonderlandTesting101#Data_Collection

Nicole.


Morris Ford wrote:

Please include the log files/ console output that shows the problems.

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM, PeteShea <peter...@gmail.com> wrote:

My college is attempting to install Open Wonderland on an Apple
Computer and on a HP Laptop with Windows. We have the required Java

plugins but the jar file is still giving us issues. I�ve accessed the

[PeteShea]

I have set-up the Java as instructed although the Java icon is not
appearing in my system tray.

I have the Open Wonderland files now installed in a directory. I am
now trying to launch it. I found the following text on an instruction
page:

"If you open the URL in a web browser, you should see the page below.
Click the "Launch Wonderland 0.5" button to launch the client. It only
needs to download the client software once; future attempts will use a
cached version of the software. (click the image for a full-sized
version)."

What URL is it referring to?

On Jun 13, 9:06 pm, Nicole Yankelovich <nic...@yankelovich.ws> wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Can you tell us what exactly happens when things go wrong? Here's a
> pointer to some information about how to capture console output and log
> files:
>

> http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javadesktop/WonderlandTesting101#Data_C...

>
> Nicole.
>
> Morris Ford wrote:
> > Please include the log files/ console output that shows the problems.
>

[Josmas Flores]

Hi Peter,

Once you have download the file Wonderland.jar you have to launch it. You do that by opening a console, cd'ing into the folder where you have your jar file and typing:

Java -jar Wonderland.jar

The process will start up, will take a bit (depending on your computer specs) and then it will stop printing out stuff in your console. At that stage you will probably see a message asking you to go to http://localhost:8080

that is the URL that the instructions mention. Even if you don't see it, you can go ahead open a browser and type that URL in, and if everything is working fine, you will see a couple of buttons, one to launch the client, and another one to manage your server.

hope this helps and let us know how it goes!

Jos

[PeteShea]

Thanks Jos. :)

I think my problem has a few parts:

1. Despite clicking the "add to system tray" option in Java, the Java
console fails to become part of my system tray, thus making this
essential tool hard to access.

2. I am not a Java programmer or systems administrator--who, it
appears, are the target audience for whom the installation
instructions are designed. (My previous experiences with Virtual
Worlds was with Second Life which, as far as installation went, was
much more user friendly for non-programmers like myself.)

3. There don't appear to be any Java folk among the tech support staff
at my college, so I am concerned that even if I get Wonderland
running, I won't have the support available to deal with the
inevitable glitches.

On Jun 17, 7:15 am, Josmas Flores <josmasflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Once you have download the file Wonderland.jar you have to launch it. You do
> that by opening a console, cd'ing into the folder where you have your jar
> file and typing:
> Java -jar Wonderland.jar
>
> The process will start up, will take a bit (depending on your computer
> specs) and then it will stop printing out stuff in your console. At that

> stage you will probably see a message asking you to go tohttp://localhost:8080

> that is the URL that the instructions mention. Even if you don't see it, you
> can go ahead open a browser and type that URL in, and if everything is
> working fine, you will see a couple of buttons, one to launch the client,
> and another one to manage your server.
>
> hope this helps and let us know how it goes!
> Jos
>

[Josmas Flores]

Hey Peter,

not very sure about this but is it possible that the icon only appears in the tray when it is actually launched? while it's idle, it might not be there...

points 2 and 3 are a bit more conflictive. Wonderland is a toolkit, and a very flexible one, but it cannot be compared in terms of installation to a final commercial product like second life (where you cannot really run your own server). Regarding support, you can always count on the community. There are also companies offering technical support for wonderland. If you are interested, just shout and am sure someone will reply to that call. :)

cheers,

Jos

[Ric Moore]

On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 08:43 -0700, PeteShea wrote:
> Thanks Jos. :)
>
> I think my problem has a few parts:
>
> 1. Despite clicking the "add to system tray" option in Java, the Java
> console fails to become part of my system tray, thus making this
> essential tool hard to access.
>
> 2. I am not a Java programmer or systems administrator--who, it
> appears, are the target audience for whom the installation
> instructions are designed. (My previous experiences with Virtual
> Worlds was with Second Life which, as far as installation went, was
> much more user friendly for non-programmers like myself.)
>
> 3. There don't appear to be any Java folk among the tech support staff
> at my college, so I am concerned that even if I get Wonderland
> running, I won't have the support available to deal with the
> inevitable glitches.

It is definitely a server application. That is what it's intended for.
The SL client is just a fancy browser for clients. You get the 'user'
experience with it, but you don't run the server. That is a whole
'nother magnitude of configuration.

But, the support level here is excellent. Half of what I read here runs
past me in both lanes, but I keep a copy of just about every post made
in the last year or so, so I can learn at my comfort level. :) Ric

[PeteShea]

Well, I have the Wonderland server folder on my computer, so part of
the installation clearly took. The next thing I need to figure out is
how to launch it.

[Nigel Simpson]

Pete,

Do you see a Wonderland.jar file? If you're trying to run Wonderland on Windows you need to open a Command Prompt and cd to the directory containing the Wonderland.jar file. You'll also need to determine where you installed the Java 6 JDK. You might find Java in one of the following directories depending on which version of Java you installed and whether you're running on a 32-bit (typically XP) or 64-bit (Vista or Windows 7) system:

\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_16
\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_16

To start the Wonderland server refer to the "Install a Binary Build" section of this document:

http://openwonderland.org/download/binary#install

So, if Java is installed in \Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_16, you'd start the Wonderland server like this:

"\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_16\bin\java" -jar Wonderland.jar

If this works correctly, you'll see a lot of messages displayed in your Command Prompt window. After some time, you'll see a message like this:

-----------------------------------------------------------
Wonderland web server started successfully.
Log files are in /Users/username/.wonderland-server/0.5-preview3/log
Web server running on http://myserver:8080/
-----------------------------------------------------------

Where "myserver" will usually be "localhost". Enter this URL in a web browser on the system where you're running the Wonderland server:

http://localhost:8080/

You should see a page that allows you to start the Wonderland client.

Let us know how you get on

Nigel

[PeteShea]

Thanks to the able assistance of MCC In House Tech--Kevin the Gifted--
the Open Wonderland server is running on my laptop. I printed up the
last page of advice from this forum and handed it to Kevin. So
congratulations all round. :)

Now for the less great news. I pasted the url given to me (http://
a000029759.mcc.dom:8080). Both IE and Mozilla acknowledged the page in
the address bar. However, the page both browsers brought up was blank.

I don't think it was a firewall issue because a) no firewall warning
came up and b) when Nicole demonstrated Wonderland here a few weeks
ago, there was no firewall problem.

So, I've made progress up the mountain but I have not reached the
summit. Any suggestions?

On Jun 18, 2:27 am, Nigel Simpson <ni...@matsuplace.com> wrote:
> Pete,
>
> Do you see a Wonderland.jar file? If you're trying to run Wonderland on Windows you need to open a Command Prompt and cd to the directory containing the Wonderland.jar file. You'll also need to determine where you installed the Java 6 JDK. You might find Java in one of the following directories depending on which version of Java you installed and whether you're running on a 32-bit (typically XP) or 64-bit (Vista or Windows 7) system:
>
> \Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_16
> \Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_16
>
> To start the Wonderland server refer to the "Install a Binary Build" section of this document:
>
> http://openwonderland.org/download/binary#install
>
> So, if Java is installed in \Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_16, you'd start the Wonderland server like this:
>
> "\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.6.0_16\bin\java" -jar Wonderland.jar
>
> If this works correctly, you'll see a lot of messages displayed in your Command Prompt window. After some time, you'll see a message like this:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Wonderland web server started successfully.
> Log files are in /Users/username/.wonderland-server/0.5-preview3/log

> Web server running onhttp://myserver:8080/

> >> in the last year or so, so I can learn at my comfort level.  :) Ric- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Jonathan Kaplan]

Does it behave differently if the Wonderland server is stopped versus running? If it does, at least it means the Wonderland server is doing something. If not, perhaps you have something else running on port 8080?

If the Wonderland server is sort-of working, try the following URLs:

http://000029759.mcc.dom:8080/wonderland-web-front

http://000029759.mcc.dom:8080/wonderland-web-front/admin

Do either of those come up? If not, you can look in the logs. In your user directory, there should be a subdirectory called ".wonderland-server". Inside that, you should see "0.5-dev", and inside that is "logs". In the log directory, find and post the webserver log that comes up.

[Bee]

I was going through group's communication regarding Open Wonderland project.

I surfed on net and found very interesting this project.

I want to know, as an enterprenior, how can I utilize this project.  Basically how i can start with it, how can I host, how my customers can be benefited by this project.

regards.

bee

[Ric Moore]

It's GPL'd open source, so you can do anything you want EXCEPT for
claiming the work as your own, withholding source code, and the other
terms of the GPL. It is a networking app so you need to know some basic
networking and java skills. Just don't expect anyone to hold your hands
for you, use google and RTFM. You can do anything you want with it, as
long as it is legal, so the marketing plans, vision statement, content,
etc is on you to provide.

You will need some ~heavy~ bandwidth, as will your clients. OWL is NOT
lightweight and your clients must have accelerated graphics, so that
rules out most tablets, cellphones and older machines/laptops with
simple built-in graphic adapters. So, I would advise spending days
reading the previous posts in this forum to get educated first, then you
will know how to utilize OWL for your own needs and how to ask good
questions.

Enjoy yourself, above all. Ric


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