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Geoffrey Wiseman

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Mar 3, 2010, 9:43:41 PM3/3/10
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Wasn't able to make it out; would be happy to hear how it went,
impressions, etc.

NotoriousWebmaster

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Mar 4, 2010, 9:00:24 AM3/4/10
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You can check out pics of attendees and slides at
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On Mar 3, 9:43 pm, Geoffrey Wiseman <geoffrey.wise...@gmail.com>
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Paul Osman

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Mar 4, 2010, 9:42:28 AM3/4/10
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Hi Geoffrey,

You can also get the various slide decks here:


Cheers,
Paul

Heather Leson

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Mar 5, 2010, 8:56:18 AM3/5/10
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Hi folks, sharing some rough notes (very rough) of our meeting. Off
to work!

OPENWEBTO Notes

This was the first meeting. Approximately 20-25 attendees

We talked about next steps:
*other meetups
*an unconference/hackathon day
*speakers
*outreach and planning
*all agreed that we want to continue. More events will occur in the
future.

Quick summary of the Discussion. (All the presentations were posted).
4 presenters: Paul Osman, Mark Surman, James Walker, and Michael
Lewkowitz


PAUL OSMAN
@paulosman (Freshbooks) api nerd
http://www.freshbooks.com/
-webhooks used
-trying to use more open standards/specs in his workplace

Paul divided his talk into 4 types of OpenSource emerging streams:

1. Identity:
Oauth wrap _ stop gap to address use cases (separate auth and
protective rewrap)
Oauth will take use cases from wrap (to release oauth2.0)

salmon protocol
*swim comments/content back to origin activity streams
*standards to address "what have I done/doing"

2. Representation:
universally formats
xml -eg
portable contacts - standard json and xml piggy back on oauth
standard query parameters
microformats - solutions for representation
(less heavy than semantic web -owl)
semantic web for mortals (micro)

access/aggregation/contacts/content filtering

3. Discovery
hammer stack
*what services are related
where should I look for info
webfinger
host-meta
lrdd
/well-know
web linking


4. Notifications
realtime web
web socket. comet
software that can notify you instead, no api call
webhooks are a solution - so simple you'll think it is stupid
provide service via api or interface
jailbreak apps - like this
pubsubhubub -piggy back on webhooks. solves the are we there yet
problem , pushing content

issues: chasm of death - open id problem


MARK SURMAN
Drumbeat
www.drumbeat.org
azarask.in (identity in the browser)
mozilla weave - widget encrypted. adding openid. base of id system
within browser
https://mozillalabs.com/blog/2007/12/introducing-weave/
how to put verticals into the browser
started out with firefox, but open web advocate on a larger scale
open internet - to be a guardian of open internet
building tech to drive how industry /technology
everyone who uses and makes internet to make it exceed
participate in stewarding the web, help the web stay open

Jonathan Zittrain -the internet is generative (the future of the
internet and how to stop it) open, participatory distributed, hackble,
evolving
-may have many threats and struggles ahead network throttled, sliced
up
mobile and web video - evolving - how to broaden
security and privacy fail - web lockdown
identity and data locked up in silos
what does freedom and opennes look at with htis

will we have an open web in 100 years?
we must build openness is a part of what makes it magic


drumbeat is building a global community to help their neighbours
drumbeat is to get others to shape the net
put out a call for projects, involves not traditional mozilla
contributors

web made movie - goal tell story of open web. filmmakers , hackers,
anyone - remix manifesto brent running this

goal - spread open web skills, hack attitude, webdev, educators
open web career track @ p2pu (peer to peer university

visualizing the open internet
show and explain open web, artists, data hackers

anyone can propose a project - connecting communities

how to get involved
join mailing list, participate in a project, goto local event, run a
project or event

how to run project
three steps or levels
1. on site, people participating
2. project promoted by mozilla
3 mentoring, seed funding, incubators (very small number here)

Camps
hackathon piece, get people talking about the web
organizers kit under development

APRIL 24th - drumbeat team
propose a project
get ready that we might work on
outcome : appreciation of web, but with development work

JAMES WALKER
Status.net
was involved with Drupal development
Status.net was identi.ca (has it integrated) (Montreal based)
rolled out new software on Friday Feb. 26, 2010
update status, provides more rich data standards, open source project,
open source, pubsubhubub (brad fitz (insert : *cheering old
livejournal people*)), google supports, support atom bit of info,
pings back with a salmon
cross network conversations is one of the biggest gaps
decentralizes conversation and data (off twitter)

vision - could be used for blog commenting
tbd - how to handle private messages, public messages only so far
*trying to get tumblr and others supporting this. twitter hold. google
buzz involved in talks

*Paul provided a demo of the tool

MICHAEL LEWKOWITZ
mic...@igniter.com
change medium
http://changemedium.org/

Michael is a technologist working on frameworks to converse and
inspire. They are just getting started.
a medium of change can be a leverage point to make a difference
an emerging system of social technologies (data interaction
infrastructure people)
facilitate conversations across disciplines and intiatives to make it
happen
more people making more changes


Thanks,

heather

On Mar 4, 9:42 am, Paul Osman <p...@eval.ca> wrote:
> Hi Geoffrey,
>
> You can also get the various slide decks here:
>

> Kick off presentation -http://prezi.com/1v4aor1zncvm/openwebto/
> Building a better future, sooner -http://blog.changemedium.org/post/422203080/my-presentation-for-openw...
> Drumbeat -http://commonspace.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/remix-these-drumbeat-slides/

Paul Osman

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Mar 5, 2010, 9:55:31 AM3/5/10
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Hi Heather,

Great write-up, thanks for sharing!

Cheers,
Paul

James Walker

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Mar 5, 2010, 9:59:35 AM3/5/10
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Great write up, Heather!

Thanks to everyone who came out. It was so exciting to see so much
interest in OpenWeb tech without having to hop a flight to SFO! :-)

For those interested in StatusNet and/or the code I was demoing, we
officially released StatusNet 0.9.0 yesterday (yup, I still haven't
slept). You can grab the code from here:

http://status.net/download

Totally looking forward to future meetups!

James

--
James Walker :: http://walkah.net/

Paul Osman

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Mar 5, 2010, 11:03:52 AM3/5/10
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On 2010-03-05, at 9:59 AM, James Walker wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who came out. It was so exciting to see so much
> interest in OpenWeb tech without having to hop a flight to SFO! :-)

My sentiments exactly :-) One of the things that motivated me to get this going was attending a conference in Mountain View and seeing how often people were getting together to discuss this stuff. I knew we could do the same in YYZ :)

Cheers,
Paul

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