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Cody Hinchliff

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Feb 14, 2013, 1:24:11 PM2/14/13
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Hi everyone,

Brian O'Meara has expressed some interest in using some of the trees we have been accumulating, as a source of dates for his datelife program. Not sure who has the answers about whether or how Brian could access the trees in phylografter, so I thought I would float this to the group and let others with clearer ideas about this provide some answers (hopefully).

Cody

Jonathan A Rees

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Feb 14, 2013, 2:15:25 PM2/14/13
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By the way, what do people know about 'timetree'? Timetree.org says it's an assembly of 1610 trees, and that it is "a public knowledge-base"... public means we can use it, one might think?

Jonathan


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Hilmar Lapp

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Feb 14, 2013, 2:20:06 PM2/14/13
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One might think. But their stated terms of reuse are actually very restrictive (no bulk download or scraping, no redistribution, etc).

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Karen Cranston

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Feb 14, 2013, 2:22:56 PM2/14/13
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Hilmar is right - if you look at the Copyright notice at the bottom, it is rather unfriendly to reuse (therefore, enter DateLife):

"Copyright ©2005-2011. All Rights Reserved. Substantial duplication is not permitted. We encourage wide use of this resource, but until it is complete it should not be used to represent a synthesis for any taxonomic group. Currently large scale, automated, data-mining is not permitted. Consult the authors if you have any questions about appropriate use, or if you plan to publish results from the database."

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Richard Ree

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Feb 14, 2013, 2:43:15 PM2/14/13
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At this point there are only 5 trees out of 2149 that indicate branch lengths in time (Myr). Here are the links to the relevant studies:


Clearly though we need some kind of UI for finding trees with various criteria. I'll add this to the issue tracker.

-Rick



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