Ezra SIL vs. Taamey Frank CLM vs. SBL Hebrew (positioning logic)

[Aharon Varady]

I think it was Dovi who indicated that Ezra SIL was deprecated in comparison to certain Culmus fonts. I just wanted some clarification on what was better supported in the Culmus diacritic positioning logic than what we find in Ezra SIL.

I'm also wondering what's been done with the open source (MIT licensed) diacritic positioning logic in John Hudson's non-free/libre SBL Hebrew font.

Aharon

P.S. My dream font would automatically apply ligatures to certain letters in a full-justification layout, or when line height might require the lamed to bow its head.


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Aharon Varady
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the Open Siddur Project
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[Efraim Feinstein]

Hi,

On 10/27/2012 09:12 PM, Aharon Varady wrote:
> I think it was Dovi who indicated that Ezra SIL was deprecated in
> comparison to certain Culmus fonts. I just wanted some clarification
> on what was better supported in the Culmus diacritic positioning logic
> than what we find in Ezra SIL.

I don't think Ezra SIL is *deprecated*. It's used to be the only choice.
It's now one of many. (And Culmus has more variation).

>
> I'm also wondering what's been done with the open source (MIT
> licensed) diacritic positioning logic in John Hudson's non-free/libre
> SBL Hebrew font.

My understanding is that both Ezra SIL and Culmus are based on the same
positioning code.

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Efraim Feinstein
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Open Siddur Project
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[Dovi Jacobs]

Hi, I may be mistaken, but I think the older fonts are indeed deprecated in terms of supporting new Unicode characters, for instance holam haser for the letter vav. Same would probably be true for qamaz qatan but I haven't checked.

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[E L]

Can one of you font experts explain if it's possible to make the tehamim and nikud appear not on top of each other?

Ely

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[Efraim Feinstein]

Hi,

On 10/28/2012 10:36 AM, E L wrote:
>
> Can one of you font experts explain if it's possible to make the
> tehamim and nikud appear not on top of each other?
>

I'm not a font expert, but: if you're using a Mac, make sure you have
the latest OS X, because it's at least not horrible. Then, pray to your
Apple overlords that they'll fix the remaining bugs in their OpenType
handling.

If you're using Linux or Windows, it should work out of the box. Can you
send any nonworking example files?

[E L]

Actually it's every html file on android.
But now I think about it I'm not sure it has culmus installed.
I should check how to install fonts on android:)

Ely

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[Efraim Feinstein]

Hi,

On 10/28/2012 10:46 AM, E L wrote:
> Actually it's every html file on android.
> But now I think about it I'm not sure it has culmus installed.
> I should check how to install fonts on android:)

AFAIK, Android before Ice Cream Sandwich did not support positioning at
all. Pray to your Google overlords that they fix it in the next
version... :-)