Thermodynamic analysis of bacterial metabolism

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Horowitz, Arie

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Sep 8, 2025, 12:06:56 AM (6 days ago) Sep 8
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Dear Colleagues,

I am new to the metabolism field. I was advised to contact the community via this address by Dr. Robert Giessman, with whom I have been corresponding about the usage of the TECRDB repository. 

I am a cell biologist with training in theoretical and numerical approaches in biomechanics (CV attached). I have recently been interested in thermodynamic analysis of the cell as a means to establish a theoretical/causal basis to this discipline (see attached paper). The cellular systems I pick for analysis are those that have been measured adequately to serve as input. My published paper is an example of the analysis I perform, but it can differ from one system to another, depending on its attributes.

Bacterial metabolism measurements afford the test of a relatively recent non-equilibrium formulation named maximum caliber (MaxCal), where, instead of states, which are suited for equilibrium but not for its absence, the attribute of interest is entropy production. Under MaxCal, the trajectory that maximizes entropy production is selected over others - hence the maximum conduit caliber analogy. This methodology is suitable for modeling the cell because living systems are out of equilibrium and hypothesized to maintain stability by favoring maximum export of entropy to their environment. 

Though the analysis of E coli metabolism is ongoing, it occurred to me that the predictions of this approach could be tested by an experimental group. Such a test would probably amount to standard measurements of E coli enzymatic activities. We would then be able to submit a collaborative manuscript that would contain not only theory but also experimental backing. That would be a more rigorous and significant manuscript. 

This is obviously very preliminary. Nevertheless, I would appreciate your responses. I will respond promptly to all inquiries.

Best regards,
Arie 






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Elad Noor

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Sep 11, 2025, 5:59:18 AM (3 days ago) Sep 11
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Dear Arie,

You raise some very good points, and although I have some basic background in thermodynamics of chemical reactions, I am less familiar with its more advance topics and non-equilibrium theories (including Onsager reciprocity).
Therefore, I might have misunderstood some of what you wrote and will be happy to stand corrected.

In any case, the idea of chemical pathways maximizing entropy production has been discussed in the past and I think there is some (debatable) evidence that it might not always be the case in metabolism.
For example, the work of Niebel et al. (https://doi.org/10.1038/s42255-018-0006-7) seems to show phenomenologically that there is an upper limit on the Gibbs energy dissipation rate in some cases.
Regardless of their conclusions, perhaps their dataset could be used for testing your hypothesis as well?

And a more general question, is Onsager reciprocity somehow related to the so called "flux-force" relationship discussed by Beard & Qian (https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0000144)?

All the best,
Elad
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