New StoragePod v3 spec

[Ouroboros]

Backblaze has put out their version 3 spec;

http://blog.backblaze.com/2013/02/20/180tb-of-good-vibrations-storage-pod-3-0/

Also, Protocase seems to be more serious about building these now (well, v2 pods) as seen by

http://www.45drives.com

[Tim Lossen]

the backblaze pod v3 looks awesome! but it also has a little brother,
the evercube -- and the basic kit is currently ON SALE for the bargain
price of 99 euros (as long as supplies last).

http://evercu.be

tim

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[Karndog]

Payment sent!

[Karndog]

Please do NOT order this!  I ordered this and it came incomplete, no fan, no power supply.  And after several attempts to contact Tim, no reply.  I am filing a complaint with PayPal.

[Anthony Goddard]

Which product are you talking about?

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[Karndog]

the evercu.be

[mal...@malcolmlogan.co.uk]

I've ordered this evercube and am VERY happy with it - espicially at the bargain 99 euro price. The webpage CLEARLY states whats included and also I had immediate contact from Tim Lossen (via twitter I think?).

Assembly

What is included in the kit?

The basic kit contains most major parts — except harddisks — that are needed to build the Evercube: enclosure, motherboard (with onboard CPU and memory), 5-port SATA multiplexer backplane and internal disk scaffold. You'll have to source fan, power supply and some small parts (wires, clamps, wedges, screws ...) yourself.

[Anthony Goddard]

Don't complain to PayPal (Maybe Tim is on vacation) - the evercu.be site clearly states what it ships with, it doesn't sound like your order is missing anything:

Assembly

What is included in the kit?

The basic kit contains most major parts — except harddisks — that are needed to build the Evercube: enclosure, motherboard (with onboard CPU and memory), 5-port SATA multiplexer backplane and internal disk scaffold. You'll have to source fan, power supply and some small parts (wires, clamps, wedges, screws ...) yourself.

On Wednesday, March 20, 2013, Karndog wrote:

the evercu.be

[Karndog]

antg,

You are right, I was reading the other page, and I thought those parts were missing as they are not in the box.  Thanks for setting me straight!

-Karn

From Tim's site:

• 1.2 Check kit contents
• Unpack the Evercube kit, and check that all parts are there:
• main components »
  • stainless-steel enclosure - x
  • aluminum disk scaffold - x
  • SheevaPlug - x
  • 5-port SATA backplane - x
  • 140mm fan - Missing
  • power supply - Missing
• cables »
  • power cable (inside SheevaPlug box) - x
  • miniUSB-to-USB cable (inside SheevaPlug box) - x
  • 2m flat ethernet cable - x
  • 0.5m eSATA-to-SATA cable - x
• small parts »
  • 5 plastic wedges (brown) - x
  • 2 Wago power clamps (grey, orange) - Missing
  • 2 ScotchLok power clamps (transparent, yellow) - x
  • 8 nylon washers (white) - Only 4, Missing 4
  • 4 long screws - x
  • 4 short screws - x
  • 4 screw nuts - x
  • 4 nylon spacers (black) - x
  • 2 power connectors + end caps (red) - x
  • 2 wires - MIssing
  • heat-shrink tube (black) - x
  • rubber profile (black) - Missing
  • adhesive dots (transparent) - MIssing

On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:21:22 AM UTC-7, antg wrote:

Don't complain to PayPal (Maybe Tim is on vacation) - the evercu.be site clearly states what it ships with, it doesn't sound like your order is missing anything:

Assembly

What is included in the kit?

The basic kit contains most major parts — except harddisks — that are needed to build the Evercube: enclosure, motherboard (with onboard CPU and memory), 5-port SATA multiplexer backplane and internal disk scaffold. You'll have to source fan, power supply and some small parts (wires, clamps, wedges, screws ...) yourself.

On Wednesday, March 20, 2013, Karndog wrote:

the evercu.be

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[Diastatic Power]

Um, you probably should've read the details on _the_1st_page_

"What is included in the kit?

...You'll have to source fan, power supply and some small parts (wires, clamps, wedges, screws ...) yourself."

It clearly requires both parts and assembly.  And I remember reading that when it was first posted. 
So what is your complaint again?

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Karndog <karn.g...@gmail.com> wrote:

the evercu.be

[Tim Lossen]

hey karn,

i was away on vacation (and offline) for the last two weeks.

my apologies for the misleading text on the instructions page, i will
change it ASAP to make super clear what is included in the package,
and what is not. (the current text is left over from the time i when i
was shipping the full kit, for a much higher price).

sorry for the confusion, and i hope you have fun with your cube
tim

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[patt...@gmail.com]

It's a shame really that they didn't use a more professional design with "proper" equipment. It would be so vastly better (though only a little more expensive (maybe $2000 more for the chassis) if they used real server power supplies from the like of Dell/HP's suppliers (eg. HP has standardized on a format) or even the Supermicro 1+1 or 2+1 units. And used the 24-drive SAS backplanes instead of the cheap sh*t consumer stuff. Rip out the silly computer in the end and move it to a standalone head node (eg. Supermicro 2U twin) and you could attach 3-4 of these to a head and use real controllers from eg. LSI that can do power management; like turning off the drive motor and just keeping the electronics up.

Resiliency is achieved by sharding the data with erasure codes (eg., Scality w/ 30% overhead) or copies (eg., Gluster w/ 300% overhead) with copies on nodes placed in different power domains, racks, or geographic locations even.

[jason google]

G'day,

I hear the point you're making - however all of the things you've proposed add cost to the design and to the implementation.

In the end a fork of the design into 'openstoragepod classic' and 'openstoragepod enterprise' might make sense (though i can feel the enterprise people shuddering already) with the ideas around redundancy might make more sense.

regards,

-jason

[John White]

On Sunday, April 14, 2013 8:18:29 AM UTC-7, patt...@gmail.com wrote:

It's a shame really that they didn't use a more professional design with "proper" equipment. It would be so vastly better (though only a little more expensive (maybe $2000 more for the chassis) if they used real server power supplies from the like of Dell/HP's suppliers (eg. HP has standardized on a format) or even the Supermicro 1+1 or 2+1 units. And used the 24-drive SAS backplanes instead of the cheap sh*t consumer stuff. Rip out the silly computer in the end and move it to a standalone head node (eg. Supermicro 2U twin) and you could attach 3-4 of these to a head and use real controllers from eg. LSI that can do power management; like turning off the drive motor and just keeping the electronics up.

Resiliency is achieved by sharding the data with erasure codes (eg., Scality w/ 30% overhead) or copies (eg., Gluster w/ 300% overhead) with copies on nodes placed in different power domains, racks, or geographic locations even.

That sounds like a generic DAS enclosure with the intelligence in the compute head. That's a product that exists. Like the Dell MD3060e. Or the SGI Modular Infinite Storage (server or JBOD).