Conf Call: os:var & templates -- Jan 5, 2010 2:00pm ET

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Mark W.

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Dec 15, 2009, 3:00:36 PM12/15/09
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Greetings...

Per the recent specification update call, we decided to reconviene on
January 5, 2010 at 2:00pm ET to specifically address the os:var &
templates issue.

A wiki page has been created with the call in details and to capture
the issue's summary information and meeting agenda.
http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=OS:Var_in_templates_Summary

Thanks,

-Mark W.

Lev Epshteyn

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Dec 15, 2009, 5:15:03 PM12/15/09
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Oops... Mark, I must've had my blinders on for the past 2 hours - didn't notice your email.

I had worked up a page for this purpose in a different location (probably more fitting since not all issues are to do with os:Var): http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Template_Spec_Issues

Guys, and especially Chris, please take a look and make sure I didn't leave anything out or misrepresent anyone's POV. I tried to be objective, but since I generally have an opinion on most of these please double check me :)


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goosemanjack

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Dec 16, 2009, 1:03:37 AM12/16/09
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Thanks for summarizing this Lev. I've expanded on a number of
sections to more clearly state our case and intent. I think this page
summarizes most, if not all, the arguments that have been made. I've
added an "Underlying Assumptions" section that basically states
Shindig sees templates as akin to XSLT, whereas MySpace sees templates
as akin to JSP custom tags / ASP.Net user controls.

I also added a link from Mark's original page to Lev's.

Please review for accuracy.
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On Dec 15, 2:15 pm, Lev Epshteyn <le...@google.com> wrote:
> Oops... Mark, I must've had my blinders on for the past 2 hours - didn't
> notice your email.
>
> I had worked up a page for this purpose in a different location (probably
> more fitting since not all issues are to do with os:Var):http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Template_Spec_Issues
>
> Guys, and especially Chris, please take a look and make sure I didn't leave
> anything out or misrepresent anyone's POV. I tried to be objective, but
> since I generally have an opinion on most of these please double check me :)
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Mark W. <weitz...@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> > Greetings...
>
> > Per the recent specification update call, we decided to reconviene on
> > January 5, 2010 at 2:00pm ET to specifically address the os:var &
> > templates issue.
>
> > A wiki page has been created with the call in details and to capture
> > the issue's summary information and meeting agenda.
> >http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=OS:Var_in_templates_Summary
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > -Mark W.
>
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Mark W.

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Dec 16, 2009, 11:40:48 AM12/16/09
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Cool! I updated the new page with your old page. If anyone knows how
to delete it, then feel free.
-Mark W.
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Lev Epshteyn

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Dec 16, 2009, 12:10:28 PM12/16/09
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Thanks, Chris... I removed your <strike> tags around my example and added a note to clarify that I understand that this is not what your proposal would do. (But how I think it should work.)

What do you think about the idea of breaking up the "Clarify Custom Tag Template Parameter Behavior" proposal into the parts we agree and disagree on - and lumping the contentious part in with the <os:Render> deprecation? These two seem interdependent anyway, and it will allow us to move a large chunk of proposal into the "green".

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goosemanjack

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Dec 16, 2009, 1:41:04 PM12/16/09
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Splitting the proposal makes sense. The parts where we agree will go
a long way to aligning behavior. I'm not sure I can get the patches
re-written prior to Monday's draft spec publication, however.

I'll look into splitting the proposals prior to the conf call. The
content should be the same as will be going into the draft, so it
should still line up despite being done after all draft patches are
merged in.
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On Dec 16, 9:10 am, Lev Epshteyn <le...@google.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Chris... I removed your <strike> tags around my example and added a
> note to clarify that I understand that this is not what your proposal would
> do. (But how I think it should work.)
>
> What do you think about the idea of breaking up the "*Clarify Custom Tag
> Template Parameter
> Behavior<http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Clarify_Custom_Tag_Templat...>
> *" proposal into the parts we agree and disagree on - and lumping the
> > <opensocial-and-gadgets-spec%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com<opensocial-and-gadgets-spec%252Buns...@googlegroups.com>
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