Workshop in June

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Jonathan Jackson

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Apr 8, 2011, 10:43:41 AM4/8/11
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Hi All,

We've had 19 responses so far for the potential workshop in June.


I think the meeting _could_ be productive but also runs the risk of not having a sufficient quorum.  Does anyone want to advocate for trying to pull this together or should we try to figure out another mechanism to push our agenda?

thanks,
Jonathan

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kieran sharpey - schafer

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Apr 11, 2011, 6:31:52 AM4/11/11
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Hi Jon,

Looking at that list I worry a few key groups are missing (i.e. perhaps concerned about the quorum). Furthermore, if we're going to get together I'd hope to see space for new interested openrosa people too - to keep the supply of new ideas and lifeblood in the community.

So i'm a bit biased towards a proper community meeeting, but perhaps is there a reduced agenda for a smaller meeting? Was it to wrap up the standards or do we still have make a larger agenda?

P.s. Are we on the right mailing list? Was the WG just for the standards stuff and should we be using the broader OR list?

Hope you find this constructive!
Cheers,
Kieran
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Mark Gerard

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Apr 11, 2011, 6:34:13 AM4/11/11
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Hi Jorn,
 
Do you think Jonny or esp Morten should attend this? It would be nice for Morten because he will gain valuable exposure with other partners. Or even Brent!
 
Mark

Mark Gerard

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Apr 11, 2011, 6:40:29 AM4/11/11
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Jon,
 
I think we should also widen the audience we targetting. What other people are we working with that we think can attend?
 
We should try to push the announcement onto other lists and see how it goes. I personally prefer a moderately big meeting (with maybe new fresh ideas). ATM, i dont think 19 people warrant a workshop! (:=
 
Mark

Yaw Anokwa

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Apr 11, 2011, 6:26:19 PM4/11/11
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agreed with all that has been said. i'm particularly interested in
what people want to get accomplished. i've got a lot that i've been
thinking about, but we need quorum and commitments before these can
move forward.

- do we care about the other apis we haven't finished?
- what does it mean to be openrosa/javarosa compliant?
- how do we handle more widgets and appearance styles?
- what does the next java core look like?
- how does that core change as people do more with html5?
- should we start thinking about couchdb like backends more?
- how do we get itemsets actually done? how do we tie it to web services?
- how can we lazy-load forms so we can do gigantic forms and sub-forms?
- how do i fill out forms about stored entities on the phone?

Mark Gerard

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Apr 11, 2011, 6:57:29 PM4/11/11
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Thanks Yaw,

This line up looks a little familiar. Not to shoot you down but I think we need to do inventory of what we discuss. Most of the things on the list were either discussed or in part some! We might want to compare what we discussed last year and what *we* have actually achieved!

On another note, the unprecedented success we had with the 2009 meeting in Dar es salaam was partly because we invited the students to join and learn about openrosa/javarosa. The interest it generated was immense and I still keep in touch with some. We might consider doing something similar if we intend to capture a wider community and actually grow.

Just two cents :)

Mark

Yaw Anokwa

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Apr 12, 2011, 10:45:31 AM4/12/11
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the line up looks familiar because these are long standing (and i
think critical) issues that were not adequately resolved. you can't
grow just by inviting people to the javarosa party, you grow by
evolving the platform to solve the problems we have now (and will have
in the future).

i do think we should widen the call, but without an agenda that is
focused on getting something done, it's hard for me to justify coming.
anyone else have something to add? the yaw and mark show tends to
stifle conversation...

Ian Lawrence

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Apr 12, 2011, 1:07:08 PM4/12/11
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Hi

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Yaw Anokwa <yan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> the line up looks familiar because these are long standing (and i
> think critical) issues that were not adequately resolved. you can't
> grow just by inviting people to the javarosa party, you grow by
> evolving the platform to solve the problems we have now (and will have
> in the future).

I think that even with the somewhat slow process the adoption of
OpenRosa is expanding - we now have Nokia Data Gathering compliant for
example - so things are moving in the right direction. We are meeting
new issues every day and some sort of a position from the working
group about them would help in our implementation for sure. Whether
that happens in Dar es salaam or somewhere else seems not too
important

Regards


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