OpenREM PACS Integration question

[Beckett, Richard (RJE) UHNM]

Hi,

 

With the OpenREM solution, hows the does the original DICOM data get from the PACS to OpenREM?

 

More specifically, can OpenREM be set up as a “teleradiology” destination? (so it can receive a direct push of DICOM data from the PACS).

 

Thanks

 

Richard Beckett
Imaging Systems Administrator
Imaging Department Main Building Royal Stoke University Hospital University Hospitals of North Midlands NHS Trust Newcastle Road, Staffordshire, ST4 6QG Tel: 01782 675966
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[Antonio Gonzalez]

Hi

Some equipment such as GE CTs have the ability to send the dose report to another destination other than the PACS, the other thing that can be done is to configure forwarding rules based on modality (SR, RDSR) and sender AE to the OpenREM AE, with dcm4chee it is easy to do so.

David Clunie has a tool to validate dose reports:

http://www.dclunie.com/pixelmed/software/webstart/DoseUtilityUsage.html

A. González

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El 9 abr. 2021, a la(s) 12:42 p. m., Beckett, Richard (RJE) UHNM <Richard...@uhnm.nhs.uk> escribió:



Hi,

 

With the OpenREM solution, hows the does the original DICOM data get from the PACS to OpenREM?

 

More specifically, can OpenREM be set up as a “teleradiology” destination? (so it can receive a direct push of DICOM data from the PACS).

 

Thanks

 

Richard Beckett

Imaging Systems Administrator

Imaging Department Main Building Royal Stoke University Hospital University Hospitals of North Midlands NHS Trust Newcastle Road, Staffordshire, ST4 6QG Tel: 01782 675966

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[Ed McDonagh]

Hi Richard

Yes, we recommend installing Orthanc with OpenREM (https://docs.openrem.org/en/0.10.0-docs/install-prep.html#install-a-dicom-store-service). Scripts are provided to pass the DICOM objects to OpenREM.

Kind regards

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[Beckett, Richard (RJE) UHNM]

Hi,

 

Ok that is encouraging.

 

Would you be able to “roughly” recommend a basic server spec (OS, RAM, harddrive space, etc) to run OpenREM? (we would look to set a VM for this will the local IT department but they would want to know the requirements in advance to provide a quote).

 

Thanks

 

Richard Beckett

Imaging Systems Administrator

Imaging Department Main Building Royal Stoke University Hospital University Hospitals of North Midlands NHS Trust Newcastle Road, Staffordshire, ST4 6QG Tel: 01782 675966

[Ed McDonagh]

Is there any possibility Richard of an Ubuntu Linux server rather than a Windows Server?

The reason I ask is because the next release of OpenREM is making use of Docker as the preferred install method, which simplifies installation greatly. Unfortunately, it turns out that whilst Microsoft have made it easy to use Docker with Linux containers using WSL2 on Windows 10 (recent versions), they have not done the same on Windows Server and it looks possible that they won't do so.

This leaves two options: Windows 10 instead of Windows Server, or a linux or similar operating system such as Ubuntu.

Unfortunately there are libraries that we rely on that have dropped support for Windows, which was one of the drivers to move to a Docker approach.

For an Ubuntu install, 2 CPU, 8 GB RAM and 40 GB disk is probably fine. It is very helpful to have SSD disks though rather than spinning traditional disks, as it makes a big difference to the database performance. For Windows, I would expect to need more resources.

Kind regards

Ed

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[Beckett, Richard (RJE) UHNM]

Hi Ed,

 

We do have an Ubuntu linux server which runs an AI system currently onsite so that is something that would be possible/considered by local IT if this were to go ahead.

 

Thanks for the information and quick responses

 

Richard Beckett
Imaging Systems Administrator
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From: Ed McDonagh [mailto:e...@openrem.org]
Sent: 12 April 2021 15:55
To: Beckett, Richard (RJE) UHNM
Cc: Antonio Gonzalez; OpenREM; Poole, Harry (RJE) UHNM
Subject: Re: [openrem] OpenREM PACS Integration question

 

Is there any possibility Richard of an Ubuntu Linux server rather than a Windows Server?

 

The reason I ask is because the next release of OpenREM is making use of Docker as the preferred install method, which simplifies installation greatly. Unfortunately, it turns out that whilst Microsoft have made it easy to use Docker with Linux containers using WSL2 on Windows 10 (recent versions), they have not done the same on Windows Server and it looks possible that they won't do so.

 

This leaves two options: Windows 10 instead of Windows Server, or a linux or similar operating system such as Ubuntu.

 

Unfortunately there are libraries that we rely on that have dropped support for Windows, which was one of the drivers to move to a Docker approach.

 

For an Ubuntu install, 2 CPU, 8 GB RAM and 40 GB disk is probably fine. It is very helpful to have SSD disks though rather than spinning traditional disks, as it makes a big difference to the database performance. For Windows, I would expect to need more resources.

 

Kind regards

 

Ed

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021, 09:00 Beckett, Richard (RJE) UHNM, <Richard...@uhnm.nhs.uk> wrote:

Hi,

 

Ok that is encouraging.

 

Would you be able to “roughly” recommend a basic server spec (OS, RAM, harddrive space, etc) to run OpenREM? (we would look to set a VM for this will the local IT department but they would want to know the requirements in advance to provide a quote).

 

Thanks

 

Richard Beckett

Imaging Systems Administrator

Imaging Department Main Building Royal Stoke University Hospital University Hospitals of North Midlands NHS Trust Newcastle Road, Staffordshire, ST4 6QG Tel: 01782 675966

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