OpenRefine joining CS&S: committees

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Antonin Delpeuch (lists)

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Sep 11, 2019, 6:16:46 AM9/11/19
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Hi all,

Here is a long overdue email about deciding how to form committees to
join CS&S.

The agreement template for new projects joining CS&S is here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hTNi19UzIb1dvJnGuF5Yu9vR_xFLXMVjbclSE3-8pRs/edit

This suggests the following structure:
- a Project Committee, which effectively runs the projects (applies to
grants, decides how money is spent, organizes events, and so on)
- an optional Advisory Committee of people who do not necessarily have
the time to get involved in the admin above but are willing to advise
the general direction of the project.

Danielle recommended to keep the Project Committee small (so it can
effectively work as a group of people who run the project collectively)
and to include people who do not intend to be hired for the project.

At the moment we have a Project Management Committee, which consists of
committers:
https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/blob/master/GOVERNANCE.md
https://github.com/orgs/OpenRefine/people
This is probably too broad to serve as a Project Committee for CS&S
(since it includes people who are no longer active in the project, for
instance).

I propose that we pick a smaller team for CS&S's Project Committee
and move less active members to an advisory committee. We should then
update the GOVERNANCE.md document to reflect that. Commit rights should
not need to be affected.

For the project committee:
- Thad has expressed interest in being part of that;
- I would be happy to serve on that board too;
- anyone else?

In the advisory committee, I think it would be good to invite a few
high-profile people from some other projects or organizations that are
related (OKFN, Wikimedia, Google, libraries, academic insitutions…).
That should probably help us steer the project in strategic directions,
connect with funders, represent the project in conferences, and so on.

Specifically, I am thinking about:

Contributors who do not have time to be involved in the admin, such as:
- David Huynh, Google
- Tom Morris, (?)
- (any current or former active contributor who is not on the project
committee)

Partners:
- Rufus Pollock, OKFN
- Sandra Fauconnier, Wikimedia Foundation
- Friedrich Lindenberg, Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project
- Ruben Verborgh, Ghent University
- …anyone else you can think of…

Let me know what you think of this and if you have any names to suggest!

Antonin

Thad Guidry

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Sep 11, 2019, 9:21:26 AM9/11/19
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+1 for inviting others that have promoted OpenRefine.

Martin Magdinier

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Sep 12, 2019, 9:07:27 AM9/12/19
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Antonin,

Correct me if I am wrong, but I understood that CS&S will move forward only once we have secured enough grants. Are they ready to get us on-board while we wait for the Chan-Zuckerberg funding answer?

Regarding the Project committee CS&S ask for a minimum of 3 (max of 6).  I can be the 3rd person

Advisory committee. It will be good if the different community OpenRefine serve are represented. So building on Antonin list:

* Librarian: Chris Erdmann (Library Carpentry Community & Development Director)
* Newsroom: Simon Roger (Google News Initiative) and/or Friedrich Lindenberg (Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project)
* Academic: Ruben Verborgh, Ghent University
* Wikidata: Sandra Fauconnier, Wikimedia Foundation
* Open Data: Rufus Pollock, OKFN
* For Profit business / Academic: we can reach out to Unifyd, Okkam, SpazioDati, Siren, others?


I am reviewing the the CSS Model A Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement - PUBLIC Example and post here my comment.


Martin

Antonin Delpeuch (lists)

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Sep 12, 2019, 9:22:20 AM9/12/19
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Hi Martin,

Great, thanks! Replying inline.


On 12/09/2019 14:07, Martin Magdinier wrote:
> Correct me if I am wrong, but I understood that CS&S will move forward
> only once we have secured enough grants. Are they ready to get us
> on-board while we wait for the Chan-Zuckerberg funding answer?

My understanding is that:
- CS&S only work with funded projects
- CZI only work with projects which have a fiscal sponsor
So I am not sure about the timing but I think it makes sense to make
progress on both fronts. I think it is good to get some agreement about
who ends up in which committee, whether we have any issues with the
fiscal sponsorship agreement, etc, well before any funding is announced.

In particular, I think we could set up the advisory board independently
of the outcome of the CZI grant - that's something we can put down in
our own GOVERNANCE.md regardless of whether we join CS&S or not.

My general feeling about these things is that it's good not to rush
these decisions and give people enough time to chime in: let's sort out
the governance before the sugar rush of any successful funding
application kicks in.

>
> Regarding the*Project committee* CS&S ask for a minimum of 3 (max of
> 6).  I can be the 3rd person

Great, thanks!

>
> *Advisory committee*. It will be good if the different community
> OpenRefine serve are represented. So building on Antonin list:
>
> * Librarian: Chris Erdmann (Library Carpentry Community & Development
> Director)

Good idea.

> * Newsroom: Simon Roger (Google News Initiative) and/or Friedrich
> Lindenberg (Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project)

I would say both.

> * Academic: Ruben Verborgh, Ghent University
> * Wikidata: Sandra Fauconnier, Wikimedia Foundation
> * Open Data: Rufus Pollock, OKFN
> * For Profit business / Academic: we can reach out to Unifyd, Okkam,
> SpazioDati, Siren, others?

Makes sense! (I did not know about Unifyd - but looking at their website
they do not seem very active anymore?)

Antonin
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Antonin Delpeuch (lists)

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Oct 16, 2019, 4:53:38 AM10/16/19
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Hi all,

I will start emailing the people mentioned below to invite them onto the
advisory committee in the coming days, unless anyone objects to that.

Best,
Antonin

Owen Stephens

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Oct 16, 2019, 5:23:16 AM10/16/19
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Just FYI Chris Erdman has moved job and is no longer the Library Carpentry Community & Development Director - however he is still on the Library Carpentry advisory group, and I’m not aware that anyone has been appointed to his previous position - so I think he would still be a great person on the committee if he is willing.

Owen

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Antonin Delpeuch (lists)

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Oct 17, 2019, 11:17:26 AM10/17/19
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Thanks! Do you have an up to date email address for him?
ch...@carpentries.org seems to be disabled now.

Antonin

Owen Stephens

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Oct 17, 2019, 11:29:30 AM10/17/19
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Have sent an alternative email address for him direct to you Antonin (I don’t know his work one & didn’t want to post non-work one on a public list)

Owen

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> On 17 Oct 2019, at 16:17, Antonin Delpeuch (lists) <li...@antonin.delpeuch.eu> wrote:
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> Thanks! Do you have an up to date email address for him?
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Martin Magdinier

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Oct 25, 2019, 12:49:20 AM10/25/19
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Antonin, Owen, 

Did you hear back from the people you contacted? Is there anyone left to contact? 


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