Question for MAC Users about telnet client

[KOSDAY SOLUTIONS]

Hi all:

I need connect to QM Windows from a MAC. Anzio, Accuterm don't have MAC Version (that I know). 

Please, MAC users: What telnet client in MAC do you use to emulate wy60?

I want avoid installing a virtual machine

Thanks in advance

Pedro

[CDMI - Steve T]

Pedro:

take a look at: https://www.codeweavers.com/

Discover how easy it is to run Windows apps on Mac and Linux with CrossOver. Don’t buy a Windows license, don’t reboot or use a virtual machine until you try CrossOver for Mac and Linux. Do...

this is a wonderful product to use on Mac or Linux.

I use it on Linux and Pete (of AccuTerm) recommended it for me.

It allows you to run 'lots of' Windows applications.

good luck!

 

Steve Trimble

office (501) 615-8674

cell (501) 772-3450

Computerized Data Mgmt Inc (CDMI)

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[KOSDAY SOLUTIONS]

Thanks your soon reply Steve... 

I will try with it
Pedro

[gplc...@gmail.com]

Hi Pedro,

I use a Mac all day long as my main computer and connect to Openqm using Accuterm.

Instead of using an emulation layer like Wine (which is what CodeWeavers/Crossover is [BTW, that is just a commercial re-packaging of the open source project Wine], I virtualize Windows in a Mac using VirtualBox which is free. I typically virtualize Windows XP and place all the Windows programs in there which have no Mac versions. This approach is a bit heavy-handed but with multiple Windows applications that have no Mac equivalent, it is more than worth it.

Virtualization uses more resources (RAM and disk space) than emulation but is much closer to the native speed of the software. Emulation is a lot slower than the native computer given the same software.

Rick

[mvr...@zumasys.com]

Hello Pedro -

As Rick mentioned, Crossover is the commercial version of the open source Wine program. But I highly recommend using the commercial version on a Mac. While it is possible to download the source for Wine and build on the Mac, it is quite a complex process, and the Crossover license is not very expensive. I actually made several contributions to the Wine project to implement or fix some features that AccuTerm requires, and CodeWeavers added them into the Crossover release. Performance is pretty good and I think it is about 99% functional.

Thanks,

Pete

[Marcus Rhodes]

Is AccuTerm necessary for its GUI features?  Or just for ssh?  If ssh is the only requirement, just use your Mac's built-in terminal application.

[gplc...@gmail.com]

Hi Marcus,

The 'gui' part is actually not part of QM, it is completely an Accuterm thing. As a matter of fact, the gui features and the wED editor require not only Accuterm software but BASIC modules installed in a QM 'Accuterm' account (the account name of 'Accuterm' is not mandatory but highly suggested) as well as a setup on any QM account where the gui features will be used.

[gplc...@gmail.com]

Hi Pete,

I purchased it a little more than a year ago (from the Slashdot deals store) not realizing it is repackaged Wine. In all the applications I tried to get running on the Mac, only one (Treepad) ran to be usable. This was before I got involved with QM and Accuterm. I just installed updated Crossover and installed Accuterm using Crossover and it was very slick. It even took care of the VB6 runtime dependancy by downloading it. The hardest part was finding my QM software license sheet to plug in the authorization key.

Accuterm runs well under Crossover but there is a performance penalty. When I type into the terminal, there is a lag before the character appears on the screen. The further away the QM server is, the larger the delay. The best performance is when QM is on the same subnet as the client. The worst performance is when the QM server is across the planet. The same delay is barely perceptible when running Accuterm in a Windows VM. 

I did not test printing.

Rick

[Martin Phillips]

On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 4:06:39 PM UTC, gplc...@gmail.com wrote:

Accuterm runs well under Crossover but there is a performance penalty. When I type into the terminal, there is a lag before the character appears on the screen. The further away the QM server is, the larger the delay. The best performance is when QM is on the same subnet as the client. The worst performance is when the QM server is across the planet. The same delay is barely perceptible when running Accuterm in a Windows VM. 

The poor performance could be due to the Nagle algorithm being disabled. In AccuTerm, select Settings from the Tools menu and click on Telnet in the menu at the left of the window. Enable the Show Advanced Options checkbox and check that Disable Outbound Coalescing is not ticked.

 

 

[Marcus Rhodes]

Thanks for choosing my next training topic for me.  http://www.thinqware.com/training.html

[Martin Phillips]

Ø  Thanks for choosing my next training topic for me.  http://www.thinqware.com/training.html

 

I am a little puzzled why Thinqware appear to be shipping a commercial product that is based on a very out of date GPL version of OpenQM which we publicly state is, in our opinion, not suitable for business use as it contains some significant bugs that have long been fixed in the commercial QM product. Given the low cost of a QM licence this does seem a strange thing to do.

 

The GPL version was only ever intended as a sandbox for developers to play with new ideas.

 

 

Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems Ltd
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton NN4 6DB, England
+44 (0)1604-709200

 

 

[CDMI - Steve T]

yes I totally agree with Martin.

QM is the lowest cost per seat that I am aware of.

QM is kind of like Excel. There are so many features you will never use them all. But..., at least a couple times a month, I ask a question, and yep QM does it and this is how.

To me the BEST feature of QM is the response time to issues (very few) and questions. When you get AccuTerm and 10 years of upgrades and maintenance? And it runs on most OS environments (including a USB stick). how can you beat that?

kudos to LadyBridge!

 

Steve Trimble

office (501) 615-8674

cell (501) 772-3450

Computerized Data Mgmt Inc (CDMI)

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[Kevin Powick]

Well said, Steve.

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Kevin Powick