CP40 nozzle holder - looking for some dimensional data

[Alexander Willer]

Hello,

currently I am in the process of designing a Pick&Place head.

To design the mount for the nozzle holder I am now looking for a drawing or at least for some dimensions of the Samsung CP 40 nozzle holder as you can buy it, e.g. at aliexpress.

I found the following picture (just for reference), but its not preicse enough if I just try to read the ruler shown in the photo:

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNf51Lg7FIDBt9WnFzOSIOiuP85EMGo3OfiLwLOSzZ7gYDK0ScD9Q556YniRxJwOg?key=WmxGOG5WZmNMWGRSRzRhM1I0cVhWNUlfQnpDWDNn

Has anybody one of these holders and may help by measuring the follwing dimensions?

• M5 thread length
• Diameter and length of the "alignment part" directly after the thread (I think it is for alignment of the holder inside its mounting block?)
• Overall length of the holder, maybe also with a attached nozzle
  

The other dimensions are not that relevant for CAD design-in, but if you have those, I would be happy about knowing them.

Thanks in advance!

Alexander

[Михаил Юров]

My 3d model: https://yadi.sk/d/gC-3EnDbrxg6b

The dimensions are exactly the same to the actual size.

But this drawing of holder without the nozzle.

The nozzle is available, but I do not have time to draw.

вторник, 24 мая 2016 г., 21:10:16 UTC+5 пользователь Alexander Willer написал:

[John Socha-Leialoha]

Very nice, thanks! I had a 3D model of this part I had created, but it didn't have this much detail. Did you create this model yourself, or did you get it from somewhere?

[Михаил Юров]

I built this 3d model by myself , having in hand the nozzle holder and an electronic caliper.

[Juha Kuusama]

To double check, here are what I measure:

> M5 thread length

7.3mm, including the small portion before the "alignment part" that has no thread. Thread itself 6.3mm

> Diameter and length of the "alignment part" directly after the thread

7.0mm

> Overall length of the holder, maybe also with a attached nozzle

36.0mm without nozzle, with a nozzle 43.4mm. The spring gives 3.0mm movement.

[Jason von Nieda]

Hi all, I've deleted the post with the dimensions image as it contained a copyrighted image from the LitePlacer website. You can see the image on the LitePlacer store at: http://www.liteplacer.com/shop20/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=66

This isn't a big deal, nothing to worry about. But it's important to give credit for content from other websites. This way the author is credited properly.

Jason

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 9:07 AM Mike Menci <marjan.m...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello 

Here the dimensions: 

Mike

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[Flitch]

Does anyone have info of O-Ring dimensions? Mine broke and I threw them before measuring, would be realy nice if anyone can measure it.

[Mike Menci]

Nozzle ID = 6mm   - Holder Seal ID = 4.7mm 
Re-measure yourself  + add for sealing 0.3 mm

Mike

[Marek T.]

Mike could you also tell what is the thread diameter and size of this hexagon part?

[Mike Menci]

See this link 

https://www.liteplacer.com/shop20/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=66

BR, 

Mike

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[Mike Menci]

Hi
9 mm is the hexagon part

Mike

On Friday, 11 August 2017 20:48:57 UTC+2, Mike Menci wrote:

See this link 

https://www.liteplacer.com/shop20/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=66

BR, 

Mike

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On Aug 11, 2017, at 17:48, Marek T. <marek.tw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike could you also tell what is the thread diameter and size of this hexagon part?

W dniu piątek, 11 sierpnia 2017 09:59:03 UTC+2 użytkownik Mike Menci napisał:

Nozzle ID = 6mm   - Holder Seal ID = 4.7mm 
Re-measure yourself  + add for sealing 0.3 mm

Mike


On Thursday, 10 August 2017 15:36:16 UTC+2, Flitch wrote:

Does anyone have info of O-Ring dimensions? Mine broke and I threw them before measuring, would be realy nice if anyone can measure it.

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[Mike Menci]

and 3mm is the spring stroke of bottom part

Mike

[Marek T.]

Hi Mike, thx a lot!
I have made my machine (old Philips) to be compatible with Juki nozzles but thinking to change it into Samsung at some nearest mechanical changes - so the dimensions will be helpful. Juki Chinese copies are cheap but hopeless about their quality. Today version of Openpnp can treat many their problems (runout and pre-rotation) but it would be better have mechanics perfect and don't treat it with software.

btw what is the price of Samsung nozzle - original and copy?

[Mike Menci]

Hello Marek,

You can find price on nozzles here https://www.aliexpress.com/price/samsung-cp40-nozzle_price.html  

https://www.liteplacer.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=175 ,.....

I have nearly finished my design of holder which can accommodate Juki and Samsung holder with nozzles... 
I need to do some tests soonest! 

You have Nema8 5mm hollow shaft on your P&P Marek ?

Cheers from Poland

Mike 

[Marek T.]

Hi Mike
My machine is old re-trofited Philips. I have converted original philips' holder (hard to find good used nozzles in these times) into holder for Juki nozzles. Fatal descission it was as copies' quality is more than fatal (runtimes) while original costs over $150. The luck that prior-to-vision is added to Openpno, without this these nozzles are not to use if the nozzle is not fixed with 3 screws and manualy calibrated (forget auto-changer or quick nozzles changing at all). So I'm interresting with Samsung as have still 3 machines to convert - however with old original system they are not precised but 2xtimes faster (no vision and faster DC servomotors driver) - so I'm still not sure if will do this for every 3.

Really waiting for your tests results about the runtimes of Samsung.

[Mike Menci]

Hello Marek, 

Please contact me to my private mail and I will explain and send you some photos of solution for holder. 

You can see the new Juki holder in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tKd8qeCu0Y

It has 7.0 mm diameter for Juki and Samsung 

[Mike Menci]

Here the view: 

Mike