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Bryan Bishop
May 10, 2012, 12:37:44 PM5/10/12
to Open Manufacturing, Bryan Bishop, Marco Perry
From: Marco Perry <mpe...@pensanyc.com>
Date: Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Subject: [OH Updates] Open source experience
To: upd...@lists.openhardwaresummit.org
Hi All,
I am new to the list, so excuse me if this has been discussed ad
nauseum. For fun, we created a DIY CNC wire bender. If you are
curious, see it here - DIWire Bender and more here blog.pensanyc.com.
So here's the question - We want to open source it. If you have open
sourced your hardware/software, what was your experience? Any pearls
of wisdom, dos, don'ts and watch outs?
Thanks to the help from Catarina Mota (who pointed me to this list), I
know of the open hardware licences such as the ones described here
http://freedomdefined.org/OSHW or here
http://www.ladyada.net/library/openhardware/whatisit.html . And I am
in talks with my usual IP lawyer. Has anyone had trouble? Any advice
lawyer wise - should I go for a specialist or any IP lawyer may be
fine? For me, coming from a background of "patent everything!" this is
a new, slightly uncomfortable thing to do.
Any advice is much appreciated!
Marco
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20 jay st., suite 800, brooklyn, ny 11201
p 718-855-5354 . blog.pensanyc.com . www.pensanyc.com . @thinkpensa
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Date: Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Subject: [OH Updates] Open source experience
To: upd...@lists.openhardwaresummit.org
Hi All,
I am new to the list, so excuse me if this has been discussed ad
nauseum. For fun, we created a DIY CNC wire bender. If you are
curious, see it here - DIWire Bender and more here blog.pensanyc.com.
So here's the question - We want to open source it. If you have open
sourced your hardware/software, what was your experience? Any pearls
of wisdom, dos, don'ts and watch outs?
Thanks to the help from Catarina Mota (who pointed me to this list), I
know of the open hardware licences such as the ones described here
http://freedomdefined.org/OSHW or here
http://www.ladyada.net/library/openhardware/whatisit.html . And I am
in talks with my usual IP lawyer. Has anyone had trouble? Any advice
lawyer wise - should I go for a specialist or any IP lawyer may be
fine? For me, coming from a background of "patent everything!" this is
a new, slightly uncomfortable thing to do.
Any advice is much appreciated!
Marco
--
marco perry . principal, pensa . northeast district vp, idsa
20 jay st., suite 800, brooklyn, ny 11201
p 718-855-5354 . blog.pensanyc.com . www.pensanyc.com . @thinkpensa
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http://heybryan.org/
1 512 203 0507
tim.thelion
May 10, 2012, 2:02:45 PM5/10/12
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It looks like you have a great product :)
I don't really have a comment on IP lawyers(I don't know any myself.
However, it is important that with your transition to open source that
you start to look at business from the open source angle.
In the closed source world, one creates a domain of patents and
copyrights. One then sells the right to reside in that domain. One
creates exclusivity by leveraging the law against ones competitors.
In open source one makes money by providing direct value to one's
customers. One creates exclusivity by providing value that they
cannot get elsewhere. One produces high quality products, in fair
trade factories, offers fast shipping, and access to products that
simply aren't available elsewhere. It's harder to do open source in a
way, because you get paid for what you do.
The difference between open hardware and closed hardware can be seen
in the following example:
Closed hardware plants an apple tree, and then charges people to pick
the apples.
Open hardware plants an apple tree, lets anyone pick the apples, and
then charges to have those apples delivered to the customers door.
The advantage to you, of doing open hardware, is that you get a
community. Those, are all the people that help you water and prune
that apple tree, because they want more apples too.
Timothy Hobbs
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On 10 kvě, 18:37, Bryan Bishop <kanz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Marco Perry <mpe...@pensanyc.com>
> Date: Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:33 AM
> Subject: [OH Updates] Open source experience
> To: upda...@lists.openhardwaresummit.org
>
> --
> - Bryanhttp://heybryan.org/
> 1 512 203 0507
I don't really have a comment on IP lawyers(I don't know any myself.
However, it is important that with your transition to open source that
you start to look at business from the open source angle.
In the closed source world, one creates a domain of patents and
copyrights. One then sells the right to reside in that domain. One
creates exclusivity by leveraging the law against ones competitors.
In open source one makes money by providing direct value to one's
customers. One creates exclusivity by providing value that they
cannot get elsewhere. One produces high quality products, in fair
trade factories, offers fast shipping, and access to products that
simply aren't available elsewhere. It's harder to do open source in a
way, because you get paid for what you do.
The difference between open hardware and closed hardware can be seen
in the following example:
Closed hardware plants an apple tree, and then charges people to pick
the apples.
Open hardware plants an apple tree, lets anyone pick the apples, and
then charges to have those apples delivered to the customers door.
The advantage to you, of doing open hardware, is that you get a
community. Those, are all the people that help you water and prune
that apple tree, because they want more apples too.
Timothy Hobbs
This message is in the public domain or CC0
On 10 kvě, 18:37, Bryan Bishop <kanz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Marco Perry <mpe...@pensanyc.com>
> Date: Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:33 AM
> Subject: [OH Updates] Open source experience
>
> Hi All,
> I am new to the list, so excuse me if this has been discussed ad
> nauseum. For fun, we created a DIY CNC wire bender. If you are
> curious, see it here - DIWire Bender and more here blog.pensanyc.com.
>
> So here's the question - We want to open source it. If you have open
> sourced your hardware/software, what was your experience? Any pearls
> of wisdom, dos, don'ts and watch outs?
>
> Thanks to the help from Catarina Mota (who pointed me to this list), I
> know of the open hardware licences such as the ones described herehttp://freedomdefined.org/OSHW or herehttp://www.ladyada.net/library/openhardware/whatisit.html . And I am
> Hi All,
> I am new to the list, so excuse me if this has been discussed ad
> nauseum. For fun, we created a DIY CNC wire bender. If you are
> curious, see it here - DIWire Bender and more here blog.pensanyc.com.
>
> So here's the question - We want to open source it. If you have open
> sourced your hardware/software, what was your experience? Any pearls
> of wisdom, dos, don'ts and watch outs?
>
> Thanks to the help from Catarina Mota (who pointed me to this list), I
> in talks with my usual IP lawyer. Has anyone had trouble? Any advice
> lawyer wise - should I go for a specialist or any IP lawyer may be
> fine? For me, coming from a background of "patent everything!" this is
> a new, slightly uncomfortable thing to do.
> Any advice is much appreciated!
>
> Marco
>
> --
> marco perry . principal, pensa . northeast district vp, idsa
> 20 jay st., suite 800, brooklyn, ny 11201
> p 718-855-5354 . blog.pensanyc.com . www.pensanyc.com . @thinkpensa
>
> _______________________________________________
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> lawyer wise - should I go for a specialist or any IP lawyer may be
> fine? For me, coming from a background of "patent everything!" this is
> a new, slightly uncomfortable thing to do.
> Any advice is much appreciated!
>
> Marco
>
> --
> marco perry . principal, pensa . northeast district vp, idsa
> 20 jay st., suite 800, brooklyn, ny 11201
> p 718-855-5354 . blog.pensanyc.com . www.pensanyc.com . @thinkpensa
>
> _______________________________________________
> updates mailing list
>
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> - Bryanhttp://heybryan.org/
> 1 512 203 0507
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