Fwd: [Robotgroup] Chili
Bryan Bishop
From: Leslie Filip <lfi...@mac.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Robotgroup] Chili
To: The Robot Group Mailing List <robot...@puremagic.com>
The web site is not live, a fire marshall has not made a determination
as to maximum capacity, nothing is available for review, pricing
varies, the guest limits are based on individual circumstances. In
short, I do not want an excess of information floating around when it
can and will change with regularity. You know, hard to raise prices
once you lower them even for a special promotion, etc. Additionally,
the goals of the space are somewhat amorphous, so everyone has their
individual idea of what value they receive for the price. I have very
little patience for tire kicking, which is why those who are genuinely
interested in being a participant will get the information they need
when and only when they need it. When someone tours the space I am
assessing whether or not they might be a good fit just as they are
assessing the space and the information I share. Even if someone wants
to rent space I may say no.
About running it as a business, I am running it as if it was not.
There will be very little or no net profit from anyone renting space,
and yet I do not want corporate sponsors or non-profit status. What
profit I do make generally goes directly into a fund that benefits the
group. The venture will be such that it will be beholden to no one.
That's what I call freedom.
Take Care,
Les
On 31 Dec 2009, at 7:24 AM, james...@austin.rr.com wrote:
> Is there someplace online that has the pricing, occupency limits, etc. that is available for review? What is your current pricing? What sort of limits on 'guests' are you looking to implement?
>
> A bit more detail would make it easier to understand the value of your service.
>
> As to being gamed, business is a game. Check out Wikipedia for 'game theory' and pay special attention to 'tit for tat'.
>
> ---- Leslie Filip <lfi...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> The changes have to do with the number of guests allowed with a room
>> rental and it will vary based on individual circumstances. There is
>> no document explaining all possible permutations. The basic idea is
>> still to provide a valuable service at an extremely fair price
>> without the possibility of being gamed.
>
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John Griessen
today for some face time and interior 9 foot high sheetrock
wall building and enjoyed it.
I'm impressed with the friendly positive attitude of the folks I
met. Looking forward to getting myself adopted by a primary member
and sharing my 9 inch lathe and seeing if we can talk an aging ex IBM
machinist into renting-to-buy a JET milling machine he "tuned up"
so it wasn't sloppy so he could stand to use it...
Who else is interested in acquiring a non-CNC milling machine, a
copy of a 7 ft tall Bridgeport with a three foot long bed for use at Les's
Austin hackerspace?
Les says machines like that should go on rolling platforms so they
don't hog shop floor space when idle...
John
PS I'll dig through my spare distribution panels next trip
to my storage room and see which ones Les likes for the shop -- it
needs more light and power.
Forrest Flanagan
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Bryan Bishop
> There's a hackerspace in Austin now? :D
For some reason we were trying to keep it on the "down low". But yes. :-)
John Griessen
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Forrest Flanagan wrote:
>> There's a hackerspace in Austin now? :D
>
> For some reason we were trying to keep it on the "down low". But yes. :-)
All I heard from Les to not promote was the exact terms and only because they are evolving
and mutating rapidly. Also that it's not an open call for tenants but more of an audition
for membership in the club -- subject to veto. That's a paraphrase.
I just showed up after getting some of the secret info from Bryan and volunteered
some experienced, rapid sheetrock wall building effort and they all seemed impressed
that I could talk tech too. :-) The 5 I met seem excited to be creating a workspace,
even if they are doing it themselves partly. The rent can be low/almost-negligible as a
secondary member. After seeing, doing, and talking with Les some, I feel I'd get some good
value to volunteer some time and effort of construction as well as ultra-cheap rent
for a space much closer in than Niederwald and Niederwald prices. Paying rent for something
you help build takes some mental adjustment though...and it's not the kind of attitude adjustment
that comes from beer!
John
Forrest Flanagan
Bryan Bishop
> Ah, I can keep hush. Do you all plan on going public once things stabilize,
> or do you just want to keep things in the shade? We're fairly open down in
> Houston, but I could see benefit to being more tight knit.
Nah, John's assessment was spot-on. I think general knowledge about it
isn't a bad thing. :-)