IRC chat this afternoon

[Wolf Ellis]

Dear all,

 

For those who are available, we’ll be having the usual online meeting to discuss open-HEA and open-IHM this afternoon at 3pm UK time / 5pm Malawian time.

 

We will try to use IRC (if you haven’t used IRC before, instructions can be found here at  http://code.google.com/p/open-ihm/wiki/IrcChats) – let us know if you have any problems accessing it.

 

Agenda for this week:

1. Progress since last week

2. Points for discussion/technical decisions

3. Priorities for next week

 

We’ll send a transcript of significant discussion afterwards.

 

Hope to see you online,

 

Wolf

 

[John Seaman]

I wont be able to make it: visitors. John

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[Tiwonge Manda]

On my way home. Will join in a around 20 minutes past the hour

 

regards

Tiwonge

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[Wolf Ellis]

Dear all,

 

Here's the transcript of our conversation this afternoon.

 

Best wishes,

 

Wolf

 

 

 

 

 

#open-ihm

	celia	hi tiwonge-good you could make it. How are things going with the asset reports!
	tiwongem	the status has not changed from last week
	snim2	which issue is the "asset reports"?
	tiwongem	262
	snim2	thanks
	tiwongem	the sensitive bit of that issue (262) is not necessarily the code that has to be written, but how it gets in line with QIP adjustments + re-arrangement of some of code for intermediate calculations that we already have
	snim2	that sounds good
	tiwongem	that's why things are a bit slow
	tiwongem	I am trying not do quick job that re-enforces some of the bad code we are trying to do away with
	snim2	sounds good
	celia	thanks-good to know this is progressing. We'll look out for posts . The next field study on the DfID/ESRC project that requested this enhancement is at the end of Sept - but if it not ready we will just add the analysis later
	tiwongem	It should be ready by then
	celia	Do we know what the status of the automatic initiate food energy requirements issue Brown is working on
	celia	I think initiate food energy values is already automated? It's not obvious how to test these function as they need a newly installed version of open -ihm.
	celia	Re asset: Many thanks-look forward to testing
	tiwongem	No. I will check on him again. If he is tied up then I will attend to it next weekend.
	snim2	probably the best way would be to install open-ihm on a "clean" machine
	celia	that' great-thanks.
	tiwongem	@ Sarah - what are your referring to?
	celia	yes, we just need to find a clean machine. In fact we have another long term intern starting in a couple of weeks, so we can tet on hers
	tiwongem	who needs a clean machine for open-ihm?
	celia	@tio-Sarah is referring to the initiate food energy requirements funtion
	snim2	tiwongem I was suggesting that when Celia tests the automation thing, that that's how she goes about the testing
	snim2	or is the "automation" on a per-project basis?
	celia	no, it's installation of open-ihm
	tiwongem	no it's automation for the whole installation
	tiwongem	so that the first time people open the software all should be there
	snim2	ok, so when Celia and Wolf test that feature, they need a new installation on a clean m/c
	celia	that's it. And as we have a new intern starting shortly, that will be less difficult than it could be..
	tiwongem	after next weekend all should be well. The script is there, but we had agreed with Brown that he should do the commit
	celia	Great-that's perfect timing
	tiwongem	now we can address issue 277 as part of that
	celia	that's good-thanks
	tiwongem	would someone please add the exact values we need to use for people above 99 under issue 277
	celia	Wolf, could you do this please?
	snim2	ok, but there needs to be some sanity brought to the Issues list; are all 59 Critical / High priority Issues intended for the next milestone release? Some of them have QualityRelease as the milestone against them, some have no milestone
	snim2	We had intended / agreed that once the FIRST release of open-ihm was made, "we" would sit down and decide as a team how releases would be managed. Since then I have no idea who has decided what changes go into what release, when, why, etc. It seems compeltely random
	Wolf_	Yes - thanks Tiwonge. As discussed at length in the issue it's not an urgent urgent one, but the exact values for people above 99 will be the same as for people aged 99. Slightly worryingly, all food energy requirements seem to have disappeared from the recently-updated version of open-IHM on my laptop though, so I can't tell you what those numbers are...
	tiwongem	we should do a clean up indeed, but some of the issues can be resolved together like those on energy requirements
	snim2	Food energy requirements have disappeared? Has this been logged as an issue?
	Wolf_	Just checked on my old laptop - it's 2100 kcals for men over 99 and 1850 kcals for women over 99.
	celia	Wolf and I will prioritise this next week. Would it help to put upalist of urgent enhancements required by donors for current work (eg the assets question) (where? on the downloads page?) . However, some of these urgent priorities are technical ones that will need input from tohers.
	celia	Am startled to see food energy requirements have disppeared! from where?am checking software now
	Wolf_	I've only just noticed that - will try testing it by updating open-IHM on the office PC on Tuesday...
	Wolf_	'Data Management' -> 'View Food Energy Requirements'
	tiwongem	Sarah issues 277, 141, 178
	celia	all food energy requirements are as they should be on my version of open-ihm
	snim2	tiwonge yes, I'm aware those three are related. What I am asking was how it came to be decided that these would go in the next release, since it's clearly a done deal
	tiwongem	I am not sure about anything about releases. I am just going to fix those things because they have been said to be critical
	snim2	no they have not, two of those issues are marked as Priority "medium"
	celia	This relates to the need to review all labels. As discussed earlier, Wolf has been putting up 'enhancements' to ensure these aren't forgotten/overlooked. However I agree we need to review all the issues currently on the list and make sure that tiwonge and brown are only asked to work on critical issues on 1.5.1
	snim2	There are many critical issues that have not been touched, which would actually have prevented a bunch of really critical bugs getting to users
	snim2	what I am asking is how the decision was made to prioritise these Issues on the list, which are not marked as critical, whereas other Issues have not had priority
	tiwongem	yes we need to sort out the labels. I have seen some enhancements being mixed with what has to be done now
	tiwongem	I will walk through some of the issues that have been commented on this week
	celia	This is poor management of the list on our part (Celia and Wolf). We will review the list from a user's perspective and ensure that issues are only marked 'critical' where they are preventing the software from being used in the field -or with the current single exception of the 'assets' enhancement, a donor requires a function as part of a contract.
	celia	We will rely on others to mark the critical technical issuees
	tiwongem	thanks Celia
	celia	Good-we have a plan (Wolf, I hope you're up for this too....) Is there anything else this afternoon? If not, have good weekends, and many thanks to all.
	Wolf_	Yes, that's fine - although I think the only couple of live critical issues posted by me are still critical.

 

 

 

 

 

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