Open government data registry Workshop
Antti "Jogi" Poikola
What: Virtual workshop about open data catalogs and requirments
When: 11.2.2010 16-19 CET
Where: Skype + Etherpad + wiki contact antti.poikola by skype
This Doodle poll indicates that Thursday 11.2. is OK for me, Daniel,
James, Rufus, David and Jussi, so let's keep that fixed.
The idea is to generally brainstorm the requirments for a good data
catalog. I will contact James and Daniel before the workshop and
organize it a little bit in advance.
Secondary goal if there is time left is to streamline the two open
source catalog projects CKAN and opengov.x so that they will support
each other. Jussi allready made a review of the CKAN codebase from a
opengov.x developers point of view. And David? have evaluated CKAN as
well (link below), it would be great if one of the CKAN developers
could evaluate the opengov.x codebase and send the comments for the
rest of us.
Opengov.x codebase
http://code.google.com/p/opengov-catalog/
Notes about CKAN and list of exicting datacatalogs
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ARp4XHAbw5YsZGRoanh4ZnNfNjJmNmJkaDVjYg&hl=en
-Jogi
2010/1/19 Antti Poikola <antti....@gmail.com>:
> Hello all,
>
> I made the initial Doodle poll here: http://www.doodle.com/smrbrg5uz3ihg3p6
>
> Mark possible days in the poll and add free-form comments at the bottom of
> the poll in the comments section please.
>
> BR,
>
> -Jogi (Finland)
>
> Jonathan Gray wrote:
>>
>> Great to hear that there is interest in having a virtual session to
>> discuss CKAN UI stuff, CKAN/Opengov.x interoperability and suchlike!
>> (I guess the title will be something like 'Open government data
>> registry requirements'?)
>>
>> Antti: can we action you with fixing a date/time that suits the main
>> people interested in participating with this? E.g. with a doodle poll,
>> say in February? (Not sure if weekday or weekend is better, AM or PM,
>> etc.)
>>
>> Also it would be great if people could add relevant ideas/discussion
>> points to:
>>
>> http://wiki.okfn.org/ckan/ideas
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 6:37 PM, David Eaves <da...@eaves.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> As someone seeking to set up a site that aggregates open data sets I'd
>>> love
>>> to be part of the discussion and help out as well.
>>>
>>> best,
>>> dave
>>> C: 778-227-4235
>>> www.eaves.ca
>>>
>>> On 10-01-15 8:52 AM, Daniel Dietrich wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Antti and others
>>>>
>>>> I think this is really a great idea and I am happy to join / help.
>>>>
>>>> On 14.01.2010, at 19:43, Antti Poikola wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jonathan and others,
>>>>>
>>>>> I will forward this email to the opengov_data developer list:
>>>>> opengo...@googlegroups.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Jussi Arpalahti made recently a quick review on the CKAN codebase and
>>>>> hopefully shares his thoughts with you guys.
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically it seems that opengov is so far much lighter and simpler
>>>>> implementation that CKAN. CKAN is more datawarehouse oriented where the
>>>>> opnegov is more usercommunity and UI oriented, though, not yet fully
>>>>> implemented. In my opinion replicating things in two projects
>>>>> (developing
>>>>> community approach, discussion and UI in CKAN or developing advanced
>>>>> data
>>>>> directory related features in opengov) should be avoided if possible.
>>>>> On the
>>>>> other hand putting two systems in one stack is not allways so straight
>>>>> forward.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course this question goes beyond technology and the vision for good
>>>>> data catalogues should be developed further. In Finland we have some
>>>>> financial backing for developing the opengov further and I might be
>>>>> able to
>>>>> get some more for something useful, but before that I would like to
>>>>> push
>>>>> more the development of "international data catalogue builder
>>>>> community".
>>>>>
>>>>> So I suggest that (in this order):
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Jussi shares his questions and thoughts for this group.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. One of the CKAN developers takes a quick look at the opengov code
>>>>> base: http://code.google.com/p/opengov-catalog/
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Before going to wiki, let's have an 1,5 hour data catalogue
>>>>> visioning
>>>>> session at Skype+Etherpad. After points 1 and 2, if there is interest
>>>>> for
>>>>> this point 3, I can coordinate the scheduling.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree with the steps proposed and looking forward to jump in at step
>>>> 3.
>>>>
>>>> Best greetings
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jogi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonathan Gray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Several people interested in using CKAN as a registry of open
>>>>>> (government) data in their country have expressed an interest in
>>>>>> having either a new front end, a different 'theme' and/or more user
>>>>>> features.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antti Poikola (Finland), Daniel Dietrich (Germany) and James Burke
>>>>>> (Netherlands) are going to take a lead in suggesting improvements and
>>>>>> features that they would like to see, as well as in comparing it to
>>>>>> other similar sites/projects. Perhaps as David Eaves (Canada) is also
>>>>>> thinking about this, he might like to join in too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suggest that Antti, Daniel, James and David (if he is interested),
>>>>>> add their ideas and suggestions to the OKF wiki:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://wiki.okfn.org/ckan/ideas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps, once they have done this, we can then schedule in a meeting
>>>>>> with core CKAN developers/designers to talk about this. E.g. sometime
>>>>>> in February? Also several people have suggested the possibility of
>>>>>> finding other designers/developers (Python) to help out with this in
>>>>>> respective countries...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are starting a little working group here at opendata network in
>>>> Germany
>>>> to discus what features, functionalities, etc we would like to see for a
>>>> german data.gov.de - we also might find some coding recourses for coding
>>>> /
>>>> design.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Antti "Jogi" Poikola
Here a benchmarking list and some other details before the workshop:
http://apoikola.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/open-government-data-catalogs/
-Jogi
PS: Diigo is soooo much cooler than Delicious ;)
Jonathan Gray
Jonathan
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Antti "Jogi" Poikola
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