Manchester Data Visualisation Weekend - 10 & 11 April

[Alan Holding]

Hello,

I work at MDDA - Manchester Digital Development Agency, which is part
of Manchester City Council. http://www.manchesterdda.com/

MDDA receives funding to carry out 'digital development' projects in
the city, such as the pilot fibre broadband project: http://bit.ly/4Oyo7p

MDDA is not currently running any 'formal' projects on open data,
though we are in discussion with organisations such as
FutureEverything: http://www.futureeverything.org/news/opendata1 and
Forum Virium Helsinki: http://www.forumvirium.fi/index-3.html (to name
two) to start project work, hopefully, later this year.

However, as a first step to help raise the profile of the open data in
the city, data.gov.uk, BBC Backstage and MDDA are organising a Data
Visualisation Weekend on 10 & 11 April.

Details of the event and sign up are here: http://dvwm.weebly.com/ and
there's a post from Ian Forrester, BBC Backstage about it here:
http://cubicgarden.com/wordpress/2010/03/10/the-data-visualisation-manchester-weekender/

I'd be grateful if you could tell people who'd be interested in this
event about it. The more people sign up, the more I'd be able to get
data.gov.uk to support more events like this in the North.

Thanks,
Alan.

[Ian M]

I was thinking it'd be great to do something with journey data from
the Congestion Charge.
A visualisation of where people start journies, and end them
throughout the day.

I'd love to encorporate Processing with this.

We'd need to get hold of the data, and perhaps and a couple of us to
do some code, and another who'se used process before.

What do you think? Interested in pairing up?

Email via: http://ianmoss.com/contact

[Tim Yates]

Is that data in the public domain?

That would be a cool dataset to mine and visualise

Tim

[Paul Robinson]

On 16 Mar 2010, at 23:30, Ian M wrote:

> We'd need to get hold of the data, and perhaps and a couple of us to
> do some code, and another who'se used process before.

To my knowledge that data is not yet "out there", but we have some great contacts with GMPTE, so I'll see if we can identify it and whether it can be handed over for this project.

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[Steven Flower]

A related tangent - but I once heard/read that the National Transport Access Node (http://www.dft.gov.uk/naptan/) data would be made open - which is locations of bus, tram and train stops...?

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[Alan Holding]

I put Julian Tait from FutureEverything in touch with a person from
the Greater Manchester Transport Unit http://www.gmtu.gov.uk/ who are
the 'controllers' of the NAPTAN data for MCC. I can provide the
contact details for the that person again, but maybe you should check
with Julian first to see where that conversation went?

On Mar 17, 9:21 am, Steven Flower <ste...@substance.coop> wrote:
> A related tangent - but I once heard/read that the National Transport Access
> Node (http://www.dft.gov.uk/naptan/) data would be made open - which is
> locations of bus, tram and train stops...?
>

> On 17 March 2010 08:21, Paul Robinson <p...@vagueware.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 16 Mar 2010, at 23:30, Ian M wrote:
>
> > > We'd need to get hold of the data, and perhaps and a couple of us to
> > > do some code, and another who'se used process before.
>
> > To my knowledge that data is not yet "out there", but we have some great
> > contacts with GMPTE, so I'll see if we can identify it and whether it can be
> > handed over for this project.
>
> > --
> > Paul Robinson
>

> >http://vagueware.com:: p...@vagueware.com :: +44 (0) 7740 465746

[Paul Robinson]

On 17 Mar 2010, at 09:56, Alan Holding wrote:

> I put Julian Tait from FutureEverything in touch with a person from
> the Greater Manchester Transport Unit http://www.gmtu.gov.uk/ who are
> the 'controllers' of the NAPTAN data for MCC. I can provide the
> contact details for the that person again, but maybe you should check
> with Julian first to see where that conversation went?

Yup, already on it. I'm working with Julian on the FutureEverything project, and this group started as part of my job to try and get groups of data users together in Manchester, although it's not all that clear this was started out of a FutureEveryting project at the moment.

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[Sam Smith]

> I put Julian Tait from FutureEverything in touch with a
> person from the Greater Manchester Transport Unit
> http://www.gmtu.gov.uk/ who are the 'controllers' of the
> NAPTAN data for MCC. I can provide the contact details for
> the that person again, but maybe you should check with
> Julian first to see where that conversation went?

NAPTAN is already in open street map for Manchester:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN

other areas are pending time/interest/checking.

Cheers
Sam

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[Alan Holding]

data.gov.uk have decided to postpone this event until June 2010.

In a statement they said: "Due to the impending elections it looks
highly likely that the event will fall during purdah (http://
www.gos.gov.uk/gonw/AboutUs/653631/). Should this happen, data.gov.uk
would not be able to support the event in the manner we would like,
and therefore we've taken the decision to delay the event until after
the elections and have it in summer, in June.

"People who have already signed up will be guaranteed a place at the
event when we next announce a date. We ensure to announce to you all
at the same time via email.

"Once again, apologies for the push back, data.gov.uk want to ensure
maximum support and visibility for the work done over the weekend
which we would be unable to do in purdah."

MDDA is still looking to support a local open data event in the next
few months. I am away next week but will be picking this up when I get
back on 29 March.

Thanks,
Alan.

[Sam Smith]

On Wed, 17 Mar 2010, Sam Smith wrote:
>> I put Julian Tait from FutureEverything in touch with a
>> person from the Greater Manchester Transport Unit
>> http://www.gmtu.gov.uk/ who are the 'controllers' of the
>> NAPTAN data for MCC. I can provide the contact details for
>> the that person again, but maybe you should check with
>> Julian first to see where that conversation went?

the whole thing was just announced
http://data.gov.uk/node/8473

Sam
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[Ian M]

> MDDA is still looking to support a local open data event in the next
> few months. I am away next week but will be picking this up when I get
> back on 29 March.

Yeah, I'm sure we can still get something done with local data, and
existing data sets.

Maybe a joint MDDA/FTC (/TYOC) event would be suitable?

I did start a conversation with GMPT(E/A) when TYOC was more active
over the congestion charge data, but didn't really get enough time to
follow up properly. Seemed like they were interested in providing
data. We just needed to say what particular project it was for. Which
was where it stalled I think, as we were just doing general
investigative projects.

Happy to dig out that email again at some pt.

The important thing for volunteer projects is to keep them small and
achievable, else they have a habit of stalling, but there's still a
lot that could be done, and hopefully it'd be of public benefit too.

Cheers,
Ian