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Samantha Atkins

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Sep 14, 2017, 11:03:02 PM9/14/17
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It would be really nice if the project escaped from difficult to build hell so many projects fall into.  I may be blowing smoke but why can't a bit of AI or perhaps not even qualifying as AI dependably take a system environment from current state to fully built state for a software system to be installed.  I followed directions and at least on my ubuntu 17.04 things just don't build as advertized.    

This is indeed a general problem and one that I am so very tired of on many many software projects and apps.  Don't mean to pick on opencog but it would be sweet if a project to produce an AGI was at least smart enough to more dependably install its code.  Yeah, a bit meta.    But I can dream. :)

Mark Nuzz

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Sep 14, 2017, 11:49:23 PM9/14/17
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I've done some work on the build system a couple of years ago. I agree that the project suffers from a lot of legacy code in the build system. Unfortunately there aren't unlimited resources to fix it "The Right Way" with a big overhaul. But maybe it would be a good idea if someone were able to volunteer to do it.

In the meantime, I can't see any reason not to be supportive of incremental fixes. But that would require some logs and a specific description of the problem before anyone can look at it. It could be anything, but my wild guess is that there's a dependency missing and the build script does a poor job of emitting a proper error message.


On Sep 14, 2017 8:03 PM, "Samantha Atkins" <sjat...@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be really nice if the project escaped from difficult to build hell so many projects fall into.  I may be blowing smoke but why can't a bit of AI or perhaps not even qualifying as AI dependably take a system environment from current state to fully built state for a software system to be installed.  I followed directions and at least on my ubuntu 17.04 things just don't build as advertized.    

This is indeed a general problem and one that I am so very tired of on many many software projects and apps.  Don't mean to pick on opencog but it would be sweet if a project to produce an AGI was at least smart enough to more dependably install its code.  Yeah, a bit meta.    But I can dream. :)

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Michael Duncan

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Sep 20, 2017, 1:02:35 AM9/20/17
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and to be fair i believe the build scripts have only been updated for ubuntu 16.04.  if you point out where it says otherwise in the poorly updated docs i'll fix it.

Linas Vepstas

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Sep 20, 2017, 9:35:05 PM9/20/17
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this stuff should work on 17.04 -- it works on debian stable, and there is no particular reason it should be busted for 17.04

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