brainstorming new names for OpenCogPrime

[Ben Goertzel]

Hi all,

So, I could use y'all's help in some name-brainstorming...

Way back in the days of yore, before self-driving cars and deep
learning were all the rage and Silicon Valley overlords talked about
billions for open-source AI, before national leaders and
mega-corporations thought AGI was a meaningful pursuit, back when we
were running around in loincloths and trying to program AGI using
abacuses carved from mammoth bones ... way back then, in the chaotic
mess of my livingroom in Rockville MD, I crafted the following
fiendishly clever naming scheme:

-- OpenCog for the general framework, e.g. Atomspace, MindAgents,
etc., that I wanted to create via open-sourcing the key bits of
Novamente Cognition Engine ... as a toolkit that many people could use
to experiment with their various proto-AGI approaches...

-- CogPrime for my own specific AGI design, based on cognitive synergy
between PLN, MOSES, ECAN and so forth

-- OpenCogPrime for the implementation of CogPrime within OpenCog
(since CogPrime as an abstract AGI design could be implemented in
other non-OpenCog frameworks as well...)

...

In hindsight, this "clever" naming scheme was not one of my better
inventions and it generally causes more confusion than anything
else.... What has happened is that "CogPrime" is never used and
"OpenCog" is used to mean both the framework and the AGI design and
various superpositions and blends between those two things...

So a few of us have decided it would be a Good Thing to have a new and
distinct name for "CogPrime", so as to clearly distinguish it from the
underlying OpenCog framework...

The door is open for any name anyone can come with, so if you have any
suggestions please post to the list.... Of course, if nobody comes
up with anything more appealing we can always stick with mediocre old
"CogPrime" ...

I am indeed aware of the weakness of the whole concept of
"branded/named AI architecture" ... after all, each branded
architecture mixes up concepts from all over the place, and the
underlying algorithms and structures are often more important than the
specific branded combination. Yet we live in a world dominated by
humans still, and given the peculiarities of human psychology, having
zingy names and brands to associate with things is helpful for
communication, fundraising, and other human-society necessities....
so it goes...

thanks!
ben





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[Karan Desai]

Hello Ben,

So Opencog is the framework -- actual hardcode which *does* the job, and

CogPrime is something abstract -- something which is independent of OpenCog,

just as say the Model View Controller architecture - it is a concept of web 

development, and can be implemented in a framework of any programming language.

But its usage in PHP has outspread widely in past few years and whenever an app

is to be decided to be built keeping MVC in mind, most of the times a developer 

starts visualizing a PHP skeleton.

If this is so, then the new name of CogPrime must not directly sound something

like OpenCog in my honest opinion, and such brilliantly should it be implemented

in our framework that whenever it is termed, OpenCog as a org must shine in the

backgrounds of the thought.

I go for a very abstract, AI-ish type of name for CogPrime which neither contains

"open" nor "cog" for now. Joining in with you for brainstorming. Let's see what 

fellow members have to say. Cheers !

Regards,

Karan.

[Ben Goertzel]

> I go for a very abstract, AI-ish type of name for CogPrime which neither
> contains
> "open" nor "cog" for now. Joining in with you for brainstorming. Let's see
> what
> fellow members have to say. Cheers !

Yeah, you got the idea I think...

My current idea is to have a name for "CogPrime" which has neither
"open" nor "cog" in it... though if an awesome new name that has one
of those words in it comes up, that's cool to...

[Ben Goertzel]

> My current idea is to have a name for "CogPrime" which has neither
> "open" nor "cog" in it... though if an awesome new name that has one
> of those words in it comes up, that's cool to

o

...

[Ben Goertzel]

To start the ball rolling, here are a few amusing options from the
list of gods of intelligence...

Mimir
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%ADmir

This is apropos in the contest of our work with Hanson Robotics, as
the Hanson robots are now just heads, and Mimir was best known as a
severed head.

OK OK, bad idea ;D .. but severed heads are cool...

http://discordia555.com/the-first-human-head-transplant-and-mimir-odins-disembodied-allys-head-the-cybernetics-of-hermes-ii/

anyone remember the Reanimator films??

Fabulinus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabulinus

This god taught children to speak. Pretty appropriate as we are
going to build the first intelligently speaking AI. And Linas sure is
fabulous...

Nuwa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BCwa

She created humankind...

Mergen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mergen

Abundance and wisdom. And "merge" is apropos for a hybrid/integrative
architecture ...

...

Well maybe gods' names aren't the best source after all ..

hmmm...

Ideas?

[Curtis Michael Faith]

I prefer names that are easy to remember for new people so they will gain in use because people can remember it when talking with others or writing. So rather than having to say: Ben Goertzel's architecture or the OpenCog architecture they'll say XXXX.

The one distinguishing characteristic of OpenCog that led me to believe in it, is the overall architecture of CogPrime. Especially how it is modeled after what actually happens in the brain at a very high level (as far as we can tell), you have general purpose bits that are assembled into specific subsystems, all of which are dynamically managed by various sets of subsystems developed specifically for the management purpose. The differentiating factor in the design, and what ultimately distinguishes it, in the mind of this experienced systems architect but AGI newb, is that flux and flow and change and change management is at the core of the architecture. That's why you have a general purpose hyper graph system at this core, so all the parts can speak to each other.in a common language and the divisions between parts can be softer and the overall system more fluid.

In the brain, there is only electrical flows. Some very local and short, some waves, and different frequencies but the same basic system. In CogPrime you have Atoms and flows of Atoms coming into and out of attention and various layers.

So some words come to mind from this:

Free Flow

Fractal Flow

Fluid

Flux

Fluidity

Fluxion

and from the idea of many parts working together:

Pangea

I have no idea how, or even if, these words have to be ruled out because of specific conflicting meaning in AGI or AI.

If you used any of these words in a fundraising context, I'd be using them with the word architecture attached to help people understand that what you are talking about is the way things work at the architectural level. Architecture is systems design and that's what CogPrime is. It is a design yes, but a very specific type of design which is best referred to as an architecture at least from the perspective of non-specialists and / or those who have a more general software design background. Architecture implies the highest form of design of much more complicated things.

Further, these things tend to get turned into acronyms so you might as well look at what they'll be.

So the above, in order of my preference, become:

Free Flow Architecture (FFA)

Fractal Flow Architecture (FFA)

Pangea Architecture (PA)

Fluid Architecture (FA)

Flux Architecture (FA)

Fluidity Architecture (FA)

Fluxion Architecture (FA)

[Karan Desai]

For a moment, the words flux and fluidity did came into my mind ! I thought they

might be weird but hey, there are people with similar ideas ! :D

Also, atomspace is all about hypergraphs, so I am just dishing out a vague idea..

We can name the architecture after some galaxy or constellation -- I find them very

resembling to Atomspace, the stars being nodes having different properties, unique,

and there are linked (though imaginarily) to form constellations... 

Or we can simply name it "Nebula". Short. Simple. Cool.

[Ben Goertzel]

FLUXION, the Fu**tastic Learning, Understanding, eXperiencing
Intelligent Organizing Network ...

;-p ;)

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[Karan Desai]

Woah, a total rocker ! xD

[Juliano Fernandes Schroeder]

GAGIA

Goertzel's Artificial General Intelligence Architecture.

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[Ben Goertzel]

GAG ME -- Goertzel's Artificial General MEntality

;)

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[mandeep bhatia]

how about MAGIC , My Artificial General Intelligence in C

:)

Regards,

Mandeep 

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[Ben Goertzel]

MAGISTER, My AGI Super-Terminator

8-D ;o

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[Chairman Zar]

Hmm, And this is because My Little Terminator or OpenTerminator are trademarked, isn't it?

[Ben Goertzel]

"My Little Terminator" is a freakin' awesome name for a toy robot ;D

[jhellrieg]

Hi Ben.

Thinking in the longterm, if there will come interactable applications
out of this, a relatable and callable name would be nice.

* Hugein
(pronounced more like 'Hugeen')
Human Brain General Intelligence
Humanlike General Intelligence

* Hugarin
Humanlike General Artificial Intelligence

* Gari Frame
General Artificial Intelligence Framework

Regards,
Jens

[David Hanson]

​Morphic Artificial General Intelligence

MAGI​

[Ben Goertzel]

MAGI ain't bad... we don't necessarily need an acronym...

[Keyvan Mir Mohammad Sadeghi]

SkyNet

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[Chairman Zar]

AtomNet

[Joel Pitt]

How about dropping the Cog and just calling the cognition design "Prime"?

Avoids semantic overlap without introducing more labels. Not as fun as brainstorming something new, but would make newbie understanding easier...

(Or maybe it'd be too similar, and people would just contain to use them interchangeably...)

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[mandeep bhatia]

Yeah, I think "Prime" sounds good.

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[Juliano Fernandes Schroeder]

I like it too. Maybe changing a little bit, like PrimA - Prime Architecture.

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[algirdas....@gmail.com]

Hi guys,

I like the proposal to simply call it Prime as well. It's simple, easy to remember and is easy to associate with CogPrime .

[Jim Rutt]

When naming products I've tended to use the  following criteria which unfortunately seldom align perfectly on a single term:

Googleable - ie doesn't collide over-much 

Shorter the better

Unambiguous pronunciation in English

Plausible domain name available.

Some resonance with the product 

Using those criteria and a little Googling I came up with:

Nabu - the Babylonian God of wisdom and writing :  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabu

Scores well on my criteria:

Googleable:  some collision with a relatively obscure product:  Razer Nabu

Short:  4 letters is very short

Unambiguous pronunciation in English: seems so to me

Plausible domain name available: nabu.ai is available

Some resonance with the product: both "wisdom" and "writing" seem more or less relevant.

As an additional plus "Nabu" doesn't seem overly American-centric, has a "world vibe".

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[Linas Vepstas]

What are you naming, and why?

How does it differ from what OpenCog is today, if at all?  Or are you trying to change the name of OpenCog?

What benefits do you expect to accrue from the new name?

Who is going to care? How do you expect the new name to alter their behavior?

Are you trying to differentiate some thing A from what we currently call OpenCog?   What is thing A, and why is it important to differentiate it?

Brand names get created for a reason.  Why are you interested in creating a new brand name?

I once worked with a professional marketing/branding/PR person.  She was great. Actually, several people, both of them where she's.  Actually, three. Hmm. Seems like its a female-dominated field. Never noticed that before.  Anyway,  the above are the kinds of questions she would ask.  Its kind of folly to proceed without having some idea of the answers.

Re: the CogPrime architecture: it has become clear (to me, at least) that it has some gaping canyon-sized holes in it; that became readily apparent as I try to hook up natural language to the Hanson Robotics robots.  That's OK -- the road to AGI is a process of discovery; its impossible to anticipate everything.  Whatever future architecture is laid out, I fully expect that architecture to change over time, as one discovers what works, what doesn't, what is needed, and what is not.  That's the nature of life.

--linas

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[Ben Goertzel]

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:14 AM, Linas Vepstas <linasv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What are you naming, and why?

The conceptual AGI design as articulated in the books "Engineering
General Intelligence vols. 1 and 2"

Which mostly could be implemented on a Connection Machine instead of a
von Neumann machine ... (which I mention to indicate the distinction
btw the AGI design layer and the implementation/software-design layer)

> How does it differ from what OpenCog is today, if at all?

OpenCog is a software design, a codebase, a software framework....

The "CogPrime" design outlined in "Engineering General Intelligence
vols. 1 and 2" is one thing that can be done with the OpenCog
framework, but not the only thing...

> Or are you trying
> to change the name of OpenCog?

Definitely not

>
> What benefits do you expect to accrue from the new name?

Clarity in marketing and fundraising for CogPrime work...

> Re: the CogPrime architecture: it has become clear (to me, at least) that it
> has some gaping canyon-sized holes in it; that became readily apparent as I
> try to hook up natural language to the Hanson Robotics robots. That's OK --
> the road to AGI is a process of discovery; its impossible to anticipate
> everything. Whatever future architecture is laid out, I fully expect that
> architecture to change over time, as one discovers what works, what doesn't,
> what is needed, and what is not. That's the nature of life.

Fully agreed...

-- Ben

[Jim Rutt]

"Prime" seems to be the name so far that the most folks like.

I checked the domain names ... and there is nothing reasonable for prime.x BUT both primeai and primeagi are pretty much completely available - even the .com for "primeagi".  

There is however, HUGE amounts of Google collision around "Prime" - especially from "amazon prime".   Interestingly searching for Prime AGI returns Opencog Prime as the first choice, even from from an "incognito window" that isn't liked to my google  account.

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[Ben Goertzel]

Well... as Joel says, renaming CogPrime to Prime has the advantage of
not introducing a new name... and we already have too many names and
not enough working AGIs ...

So I am sympathetic to this suggestion, unless someone else comes up
with something super-grabby...

PRIME = PRobabilistic Intelligent Mind-Evolution ;-)

or... PRactically Incomprehensible Muck of Entropy ..

hmmm...

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[Poss Abilities]

I'd like to suggest "Pinion"

A pinion is "the smaller of two interacting gears, usually the drive gear."   In other words, a pinion is a device which provides driving force through open cogs.

Furthermore, an opinion is "a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty", which is exactly the kind of thinking we need AGI for. As Wilde said “Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.”

Brains only cease being mimics when they apply their own drive cogs to generate their own thoughts.

[Poss Abilities]

A pinion which generates opinions.

[Daniel Gross]

To add my 2cents:

The naming is indeed confusing. 

How about the following:

OpenCog => The OpenCog General Framework (or OCFG)

CogPrime ==> to become nameless -- since one can assume that it will not in the near future be implemented using an alternative AGI Framework

OpenCogPrime ==> OpenCog Reference Implementation (or OpenCog-RI)

I know,  it has no chic, but its clear (i think) :-) 

Daniel

[Daniel Gross]

I meant: OCGF :-)

[Ed Pell]

I suggest Holmes. You know the smart one.

Ed

[Jarnleikr Nidhogg]

Chaitanya

"The Sanskrit word, Chaitanya, means 'consciousness' or 'spirit' or 'intelligence' or 'sensation'. 

It is the pure Consciousness or the cosmic intelligence, the consciousness that knows itself and also knows others.

It also means energy or enthusiasm."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaitanya_(consciousness)

And with that positive thought, have a nice day.

Tor

On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 8:18:46 AM UTC+1, Ben Goertzel wrote:

Hi all,

So, I could use y'all's help in some name-brainstorming...

[Nil Geisweiller]

Ben is using PrimeAGI, which has the merit of being super clear.

But Chaitanya is certainly a beautiful name in sound and meaning.

Nil

On 04/15/2016 08:55 PM, Jarnleikr Nidhogg wrote:
> *Chaitanya*
>
> "The Sanskrit word, *Chaitanya*, means 'consciousness' or 'spirit' or

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Chaitanya PrimeAGI ;-)

Nil, thanks for that information, then PrimeAGI it is.

Tor

[William DeVore]

PrimeAGI or Pinion is good.

[antican...@gmail.com]

I'm not an active coder in the development of opencog, but I'm opposed to a namechange.

when I started to learn about opencog I found that the various naming and renaming was a frustrating
source of confusion for a beginner. This AGI project of yours was first known as Novamente, then opencog prime, then opencog.... It took me ardeous efforts to figuer out
that it was essentially all the same.

I think if you want more people to participate, this confusion can be very offputting, in fact I found the poor documentation still a major temptation for people to explore
other AI frameworks since too much time is needed to actually decide if it has any advantage over the other frameworks, and unecessarily changing its name only
adds to the mix.

So I suggest reconsider the name change, or at least have a very clear statement for outsiders to know what they are dealing with.

[Mark Nuzz]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:27 PM, <antican...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not an active coder in the development of opencog, but I'm opposed to a
> namechange.
>
> when I started to learn about opencog I found that the various naming and
> renaming was a frustrating
> source of confusion for a beginner. This AGI project of yours was first
> known as Novamente, then opencog prime, then opencog.... It took me ardeous
> efforts to figuer out
> that it was essentially all the same.
>

If by "AGI project" you mean the encompassing framework now known as
"OpenCog": This was never called "OpenCogPrime", it went straight from
Novamente to OpenCog. There are two different systems. OpenCog is a
generalized framework intended for experimentation with differing AGI
designs, of which CogPrime happens to be the design that the team here
is using. The implementation of CogPrime within OpenCog is called
OpenCogPrime.

It can be clumsy to parse through the various names listed above and
that's the rationale behind the name change for OpenCogPrime. OpenCog
itself is not changing as far as I am aware (and I like that name as
is).

[Gaurav Gautam]

Hi

How about simply calling it root? Even better just /. Read it as root but always
write it out as /.

The message being: CogPrime is where real AI begins.

Then if you make an agent which attains GI, you could name it ~.

This also decouples the names from any language, so it addresses that person's
concern with internationalization who suggested Nabu.

And in the event that CogPrime becomes the defacto standard for creating AGI's
and gains the status that E=mc2 has in popular culture, just imagine how much
artistic freedom you will be giving to people. A '/' can be stylized in myriad ways.
A word will never be able to compete with that. Maybe Slash will write some theme
music for it?

Also, if its a defacto standard, doesn't '/' make a lot of sense? Its the starting point...
by definition.

Yours sincerely
Gaurav Gautam

[Linas Vepstas]

slash-dot? Hmm, I wonder if the slashdot.org domain name is available.

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[Gaurav Gautam]

Well I wanted to say "/" which is the symbol for root in linux. But if /. sounds better then thats
fine too.

[Curtis Faith]

Empathic

Virtual

Agente

I mean, she's already got a head, why not give the brain the same name?

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[Linas Vepstas]

I really like that!

[Andi]

Ben,
since it is your design:

"-- CogPrime for my own specific AGI design, based on cognitive synergy
between PLN, MOSES, ECAN and so forth"

It should be named as what it is and at what you want it to be:

BensSanta

And it will be praised and talked about for thousands of years,
by people sitting around their fires, telling tales about how it began......

Belive me: everybody in the scene will remenber this name and what it means and who made the design and with what tools it was made - the opencog toolset.

In this way the first gift from BensSanta will be that more people know about and remember opencog...

Andi

[Ben Goertzel]

SANTA = Self-organizing Adaptive NeTwork Algorithm ... yeah, sure, why not? ;D

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> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--
Ben Goertzel, PhD
http://goertzel.org

Super-benevolent super-intelligence is the thought the Global Brain is
currently struggling to form...

[Jeremy Zucker]

Just be sure that SANTA doesn't turned into:

Self-organizing Algorithm of a Terminator-like Adaptive Network: SATAN

"Any sufficiently complex system is hackable"
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[Andi]

The name BensSanta would also introduce personal responsibility, which is needed in the diskussion about negative possibilities.
But reading the opencog wiki and replacing OpencogPrime with BensSanta felt strange. So you would have to make a certain statement to explain it.