The next open1to1 image....should we?

[David Trask]

I'm getting some emails about the next Open1to1 image.  First...if we're going to do it, I need some help with the imaging tool.  I'm willing to build the image, but will need the imaging tool updated...OR we're just going to have to build an image and let folks use something like Clonezilla to deploy it.  The biggest issue with the imaging tool is EFI machines.  I also have no idea how many people are planning to use Open1to1 next year....care to weigh in?

David Trask

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[Warren Luebkeman]

I think its a discussion that should be had...who is using it, is open1:1 fulfilling a need?  If it continues should the direction change, perhaps towards Chrome OS or something?  I'm not sure...but I do know I'm about to spend $45 to get the domains renewed, so lets hope something comes of it ;-)

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[Robert Sargent]

Gentlemen,

I have been using the open1to1 image at the Waits River Valley School. I do not have the skill to update something like the USB installer, but I would like to help if I can.

I am also going to look at UberStudent, which seems to be a solution that is very similar to the open1to1 image.

Robert Sargent
Technology Coordinator
Waits River Valley School
East Corinth, Vermont

[Warren Luebkeman]

Already paid for, buy me a beer sometime ;-)

[Shaun Meredith]

Do we want to setup a meeting to discuss what to try to do for this next year or a Google Hangout and let people join remotely?  I have time early next week.

Shaun

[Swift, Randy]

We use it throughout the district form the high school down through the elementary schools. The last couple of years we used clonezilla to image our efi machines. However, it is very important (to us) that we get the image way before school starts. I am willing to do what I can to help. Thanks

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Warren Luebkeman <war...@resara.com> wrote:

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[David Trask]

what are your plans for this coming year with the new MLTI?

David Trask

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[Bjorn Behrendt]

I would be interested to know what needs open1to1 is fulfilling compared to ChromeOS.   I think many Open1to1'ers would also be the type to adopt ChromeOS vs drinking the MLTI coolaid. 

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[brian mullan]

Just a lurker... but have you all previously looked at something like SystemImager (http://www.systemimager.org/)

SystemImager is software that automates Linux installs, software distribution, and production deployment.

SystemImager makes it easy to do automated installs (clones), software distribution, content or data distribution, configuration changes, and operating system updates to your network of Linux machines. You can even update from one Linux release version to another!

It can also be used to ensure safe production deployments. By saving your current production image before updating to your new production image, you have a highly reliable contingency mechanism. If the new production enviroment is found to be flawed, simply roll-back to the last production image with a simple update command!

Some typical environments include: Internet server farms, database server farms, high performance clusters, computer labs, and corporate desktop environments.

To see if it could do what you need?

Brian

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[David Trask]

Very cool Brian....I'll need to give it a look!

David Trask

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[brian mullan]

You should note that if you had ever used the popular RemasterSys to the maintainer of it has stopped and RemasterSys

has been picked up by (forked) and incorporated into SystemImager

See here...

http://system-imaging.blogspot.com/

[David Trask]

I used to use Remastersys...in fact that's what I used for the 2011 image.

David Trask

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[David Trask]

last years image was built in a VM...to make it hardware agnostic

David Trask

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[sligett]

Hi - could someone reiterate the goals of Open1to1 and the Open1to1 image? I guess for me, it would be useful to know why to use Open1to1 versus Edubuntu (or enter your favorite distro here). If someone were to ask what I'd like to have, I'd like to have a way of providing the technology (software, hardware, delivery, etc.) that Bob Sargent and other teachers and students need with little time required for management and little hassle for the end-user.

I can see that ChromeOS and Chromebooks can support the part about needing little management, but not the "open" part, and while they can do many things, they can't do "everything".

thanks,
steve

On Monday, May 6, 2013 11:09:16 AM UTC-4, David Trask wrote:

[brian mullan]

I don't want to assume anything but you are all aware that the ChromeBooks can now have linux installed on them?    On many/most there is a developer switch that when turned on/off allows installation of a linux distro.

Only mentioning it because the price, size/weight of the ChromeBooks can make them a very nice "laptop" for kids.

Also, has anyone thought of putting the school linux desktop in a cloud environment and then accessing it from something like the above using an app like x2go etc?

I've done this before and it is relatively simple to do.   

Easy to manage/update and scalable.   For instance on AWS's cloud you can use their auto-scaling capability to add desktop servers during peak of day and then scale back down at end of day.   AWS is an IaaS so you only pay for what you use, when you use it.

Best of all.. the kids can log into the their "cloud" desktop at school or at home and have all the same apps available to them, their homework etc.

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[Scott MacCallum]

Perhaps the project has accomplished its mission now that there are so many readily available open (not free as in freedom mind you) operating system offerings.

[David Trask]

Well, that was the original intent of Open 1to1 when we started 4 years ago.  We were aiming to give schools a ready-made (yet openly customizable) image and an imaging solution that could be deployed quickly to devices via a USB stick....in less than 7-10 mins per device.  In testing it was sometimes even faster.  The imaging tool also allowed  for custom-naming and other post-install goodies....such as custom password setting...etc.  We made life easier for schools by locking down such things as the ability to create ad-hoc networks....locking proxy settings...etc.

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[sligett]

I know that Bob Sargent has truly appreciated having a simple way to image computers via a USB stick. And I know that we plan to depend on Linux at Waits River Valley School (WRVS) in the upcoming year. In fact, we'll probably update our 18 or so teacher XP desktops to Ubuntu, Edubuntu, or something like Edubuntu LTSP. I don't know where others are in their choices. Is the open1to1 imager what's most important to you, is a discussion about imaging tools important, and you'll work out details on your own, or ???

I think that at WRVS we'll want a simple imaging tool, and if the open1to1 image isn't available, or suitable for our needs, we'll continue on with FOG or Clonezilla.

thanks,
steve

On Friday, May 10, 2013 3:56:31 PM UTC-4, David Trask wrote:

Well, that was the original intent of Open 1to1 when we started 4 years ago.  We were aiming to give schools a ready-made (yet openly customizable) image and an imaging solution that could be deployed quickly to devices via a USB stick....in less than 7-10 mins per device.  In testing it was sometimes even faster.  The imaging tool also allowed  for custom-naming and other post-install goodies....such as custom password setting...etc.  We made life easier for schools by locking down such things as the ability to create ad-hoc networks....locking proxy settings...etc.

On Friday, May 10, 2013, sligett wrote:

Hi - could someone reiterate the goals of Open1to1 and the Open1to1 image? I guess for me, it would be useful to know why to use Open1to1 versus Edubuntu (or enter your favorite distro here). If someone were to ask what I'd like to have, I'd like to have a way of providing the technology (software, hardware, delivery, etc.) that Bob Sargent and other teachers and students need with little time required for management and little hassle for the end-user.

I can see that ChromeOS and Chromebooks can support the part about needing little management, but not the "open" part, and while they can do many things, they can't do "everything".

thanks,
steve

On Monday, May 6, 2013 11:09:16 AM UTC-4, David Trask wrote:

I'm getting some emails about the next Open1to1 image.  First...if we're going to do it, I need some help with the imaging tool.  I'm willing to build the image, but will need the imaging tool updated...OR we're just going to have to build an image and let folks use something like Clonezilla to deploy it.  The biggest issue with the imaging tool is EFI machines.  I also have no idea how many people are planning to use Open1to1 next year....care to weigh in?

David Trask

coppe...@gmail.com

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[David Crawford]

A new possible option - http://ubermix.org

On Monday, May 6, 2013 11:09:16 AM UTC-4, David Trask wrote: