Hopefully as this group is person driven we should avoid the IPR mess
that was so painful in OAuth. Eran I feel your pain.
I've have been very active in trying to craft the OpenID IPR Policy
and Process, and then pushing the similar effort around OAuth, and to
a lesser extent, XRDS-SImple (XRDS-Simple is derived from XRDS which
is part of the XRI Resolution Spec I am co-author of).
I've got a law degree, but I am a developer by profession and tribal
affiliation. I am *not* a lawyer, and nothing I say should be taken as
legal advice. (If I don't say that, apparently I can get in trouble)
That being said, I'm happy to give my non-legal advice and opinion
about IPR topics ;)
I've been talking about the need for a open standards body for a while
now, and I'm happy to see Open Web Foundation come together. I have a
lot of opinions about how this should work - you'll hear them from me.
I'm involved with OpenID, OAuth, OpenSocial, Information Cards,
DNSSEC, TLS and probably others I forgot.
My biggest concern is IPR agreements around standards, which appear to
increasingly suck (or perhaps they always did and I hadn't noticed).
I'm really hoping the OWF can do a better job. As Eran notes, cleaning
up after you failed to get it right at the outset is a painful
process, but getting it right at the outset is also painful. I want to
see the OWF create a blueprint for that process, so new standards can
get it done in days, not months.
I could say much more, and no doubt I will, over time...
DLF is a not for profit membership org of large univ. research
libraries and national libraries (Library of Congress, NARA,
NLM), and Oxford, British Library, and Bibliotheca Alexandrina
DLF supports the development of standards and protocols for
information sharing, and we have long desired a good place to
park some of the more pervasive standards we have been
associated with; we do partner at times with NISO as well as
other standards organizations.
We have supported OpenURL; Open Archives Initiative; Metadata
Encoding and Transmission Standard; Electronic Resource Mgmt
Initiative; and others.
I was long involved with Shibboleth (distributed auth system
from Internet2), and push various cookies generally relating
to changing media, platforms, etc..
I work with O'Reilly on their Tools of Change conference,
and have blogged at Radar and my own blogs on information
Congratulations on the release of this group!
I should mention a little of my history. I worked at Sun for 6 years
as the Chief Open Source Evangelist and was the primary voice for Open
Source Java during that time. My current employee is Intel
Corporation, where I work in the Open Source Technology Office.
Am also founder of MyMesh.com which implements the people mesh, similar
in concept to what has been proactively advocated by Marc Canter et al
since 2003, now made possible by all these social APIs and data feeds.
Am here to learn something new about the open web space, as well as the
latest open data formats and methods.
I'm an Open Source developer, with some experience
writing big useless standards and am interested in
helping to build a safe home for small useful
I'm John Eckman, and I've got multiple reasons to be excited about
what's happening here.
Professionally, I work for Optaros, which is a systems integration
firm focused on helping large enterprises "get" the web, by assembling
solutions from predominantly open source software. I blog (for work)
at http://www.optaros.com/ and http://www.eosdirectory.com/
Personally, I'm a free and open source software advocate interested in
how the Open Web can serve individuals and non-profits as well as
I've written/contributed to a couple minor plugins for Movable Type
(Action Streams for Identi.ca, for TripIt, and for some other
services) and WordPress (WP-Book, which integrates WordPress into
Facebook), and a lightweight twitter-group app called re-tweeter ( http://www.openparenthesis.org/code/twitter-api
I'm involved (unfortunately, too often as a lurker and manager of
developers) with Wordpress, Drupal, Joomla, DiSO, and some other
(mostly PHP) open source projects, but don't get as much time as I'd
like to get into sustained coding. (Hope to get involved in laconi.ca
identi.ca as well).
I blogged about Open Web Foundation announcement this morning, with
some concerns about ensuring bottom up, individual user freedom as
well as business cooperation:
My name is Dennis Hamilton (aka orcmid practically everywhere).
I am an interoperability enthusiast and standards junky.
I'm not working on any web standards or protocols these days. My attention
is more on document formats and document-management-system middleware. I am
keen about the work on user-centric identity systems and have been an
Internet Identity Workshop participant and booster.
I came here because the theme intrigued me and I wanted to know more. I
don't have any experience or contribution to make around legal matters.
[delayed while I fussed with google groups to allow my preferred e-mail
address as a poster. All better now.]
I also like the direction Adobe is moving and hope to incorporate
feedback from the list as well as contribute some of the ideas we are
Sent from my iPhone, typos are only kind of my fault
I have a 13-year history helping to develop Web specifications. I am
also an open source developer and serve on the board of directors of
the Python Software Foundation.
I am the founder of the Pinax Project which is an open source platform
for building socially-oriented websites in the Django Web Framework.
I am interested both in helping define specifications as well as
seeing them implemented in Django / Pinax.
. . . not just the web or browsing experience, but the entire operating system for a variety of software that can runs upon it.
> Welcome to the Open Web Foundation discussion group!
> Please begin by introducing yourself, list open specifications you are
> involved with or use, and tell us what new specifications and projects
> you would like the foundation to help move forward.
Dan, you just missed the perfect opportunity to stand up and say:
Hi, I’m Dan and I’m an IPR process victim.
I am Joe Andrieu, Founder and CEO of SwitchBook and Chair of the ProjectVRM
Standards Committee, where I'm working with Doc Searls and others on Vendor
Relationship Management. I'm also an occasional lurker/contributor to
DataPortability and a member of the community gathered around the Internet
Identity Workshops. I've tracked the microformats community for quite a
while; I have virtually no experience with formal SSOs and SDOs. FWIW, I was
also the founder of the Internet Developers Association which became the
Association of Internet Professionals and subsequently failed during the
.com crash. We weren't involved in open standards, but the political and
organizational lessons learned were dearly paid for.
I'm interested in how OWF might support what we are doing with VRM and how
it might work with or compete with other organizations trying to solve
similar problems. I'm particularly interested in good IPR policy as that is
an area where we have had little traction at ProjectVRM and yet is critical
to what I want to do.
Personally, I've started a conversation within the VRM community around
User-driven Search[2,3], an area where I hope to collaboratively create one
or more open specifications.
I'm Keith Fahlgren, publishing tech guru at O'Reilly and a OASIS
For me the real test of an specification is if people can interoperate
using it without knowing each other exist, let alone needing a
business relationship. OWF's IPR covenant model should make this
possible in many more cases and I'm looking forward to it.