Google Wave invites
wm
(w...@opentechspace.org) an email. I believe that in order to use Google
Wave, you currently have to use a gmail address (even attempts to sign
up google apps for domains email addresses, even though they use
gmail, have failed. You need to use an actual @gmail.com email address
to get into Wave. Sorry)
I have 8 invitations, but I'm sure there are other people out there
who have spare invites.
wm
had a group of people try to use it for internal communication, it
isn't quite there yet. It might be some day, but even that is not
clear. It is really cool in a number of ways, but it isn't that useful
yet for organic communication.
interrupt0x00
than the Interface...
I've felt that email has been desperately in need of replacement/
advancement for quite a while; considering the coming changes in modes
of communication and data representation --- telepresence, 3D TVs and
large-format multitouch surfaces to name just three --- we are
reaching the "carrying capacity" of traditional modes and if we don't
start moving towards new technologies progress will break when we hit
it or at least become increasingly retarded by it
right now, I see google as the most probable entity for leveraging
change in this front...
interrupt0x00
moment for me to figure things out a bit, but now _I've_ got some
invites to spread around
thanks wm!
...also need to remember how to operate a MediaWiki, it's been about
four years since I used one to document a project I was working on..
don't imagine it has changed much, but I think I may have --- I know
I've forgotten a lot of things since then...
wm
Sites rather than MediaWiki. I'm not sure why Google Sites was being
maligned -- it is actually one of the best and most powerful wikis
around, and at the same time, it is completely WYSIWYG, so it is
easier for people not familiar with wikis to use. There is no markdown
language to learn.
The only downside of Sites is that there is no way to make it editable
by everyone, but I figured that I would just add people when they
asked. Apparently that was not easy enough. Oh well. Both Google
Sites (at http://projects.opentechspace.org) and MediaWiki (at
http://wiki.opentechspace.org) are available, although it probably
doesn't make sense to use both. Whichever people want to use is fine
by me. Just let me know.
--wm
interrupt0x00
malignancy it... I was just frustrated. I also didn't know (probably
did see it at some point, but forgot about...) that OTS was funded by
a google grant.
Once I got onto the MediaWiki I remembered how much like editing html
it is like... :(
Over the last year, I'd been checking back and checking back and once
it got past the year mark I was like: "this is starting to get kind of
ridiculous.." or as the kids might say "WTF?"
I think the issue could have been avoided if OTS would have clearly
described the process for gaining access to, as I remember it just
said something like "go to this page ...enter you page" but now that's
in the past...
Sorry I was just frustrated... Hopefully some good will come from
it...
looks like nobody has touched the MediaWiki yet, _I_ think you should
pull it, if google's funding you, then I think we should support them!
again, sorry I've been such a pain...
On Jan 29, 8:53 am, wm <wmle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is exactly why I originally set up the projects Wiki using Google
> Sites rather than MediaWiki. I'm not sure why Google Sites was being
> maligned -- it is actually one of the best and most powerful wikis
> around, and at the same time, it is completely WYSIWYG, so it is
> easier for people not familiar with wikis to use. There is no markdown
> language to learn.
>
> The only downside of Sites is that there is no way to make it editable
> by everyone, but I figured that I would just add people when they
> asked. Apparently that was not easy enough. Oh well. Both Google
> Sites (athttp://projects.opentechspace.org) and MediaWiki (athttp://wiki.opentechspace.org) are available, although it probably
Bart Massey
we use for our website. Wm is enthusiastic about Google
Sites, and I don't have a strong opinion about anything.
Let's just get some content up *somewhere* and deal with it
after that. :-)
Bart
> > asked. Apparently that was not easy enough. Oh well. =A0Both Google
> > Sites (athttp://projects.opentechspace.org) and MediaWiki (athttp://wiki.=
> opentechspace.org) are available, although it probably
> > doesn't make sense to use both. =A0Whichever people want to use is fine
> > by me. =A0Just let me know.
> >
> > --wm
> >
> > On Jan 28, 6:00=A0pm, interrupt0x00 <interrupt0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > just received my invite and have successfully logged in, might take a
> > > moment for me to figure things out a bit, but now _I've_ got some
> > > invites to spread around
> >
> > > thanks wm!
> >
> > > ...also need to remember how to operate a MediaWiki, it's been about
> > > four years since I used one to document a project I was working on..
> > > don't imagine it has changed much, but I think I may have --- I know
> > > I've forgotten a lot of things since then...
> >
> > > On Jan 28, 11:40=A0am, wm <wmle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > If you want an invite to Google Wave, please send me
> > > > (w...@opentechspace.org) an email. I believe that in order to use Goo=
> gle
> > > > Wave, you currently have to use a gmail address (even attempts to sig=
> n
> > > > up google apps for domains email addresses, even though they use
> > > > gmail, have failed. You need to use an actual @gmail.com email addres=
> s
> > > > to get into Wave. Sorry)
> >
> > > > I have 8 invitations, but I'm sure there are other people out there
> > > > who have spare invites.
>
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Paul Stoffregen
this attention on web-based apps is missing focus on more fundamental
human factors to build local, actively engaged community. While I'm a
likely contributor, OTS is not my personal mission, so that's all I'm
going to say for now.
-Paul
interrupt0x00
although I see what is happening here, now, not so much as missing the
focus but the act of (hopefully?) coming into focus. The wiki is the
only "tangible" artifact that we have to build the kernel of community
off of at this point and I think it is/was representative of the state
of the "OTS community"...
it's been here for a year, but there's no content and no clear way to
log in and get involved...
interrupt0x00
happy to at least not make him any more frustrated...
One question that I have about google sites is what kind of data
portability does it allow? is making the decision to go that way an
irrevocable one? how much of a pain would it be to make a change to
another platform?
On Jan 30, 12:31 am, Bart Massey <b...@po8.org> wrote:
> No prob at all. Honestly, BTW, Google could care less what
> we use for our website. Wm is enthusiastic about Google
> Sites, and I don't have a strong opinion about anything.
> Let's just get some content up *somewhere* and deal with it
> after that. :-)
>
> Bart
>