Joshua, thanks for posting the Sustainapedia document. To clarify: Is that effort stalled out? Is it proceeding with the same name?
Wikipedia pretty much works (with Appropedia or Sustainapedia being the
adaptations), maybe there is a better alternative but if so lets hear
about a working example rather than a theoretical one. Otherwise lets
figure out what isn't working with Appropedia (if people think its not
working) and fix it.
For example I find too many gaps in any category for it to be a place I
go and look for information - e.g. there are only 4 entries under Food
Production.
- Mitra
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 17:12, Michael Maranda <m...@michaelmaranda.net> wrote:Joshua, thanks for posting the Sustainapedia document. To clarify: Is that effort stalled out? Is it proceeding with the same name?
I think its time to skip the theory about how it should theoretically work and apply some decent permaculture principals .... observe, see what IS working and then figure out how to adapt it to this environment.
Wikipedia pretty much works (with Appropedia or Sustainapedia being the adaptations), maybe there is a better alternative but if so lets hear about a working example rather than a theoretical one. Otherwise lets figure out what isn't working with Appropedia (if people think its not working) and fix it.
For example I find too many gaps in any category for it to be a place I go and look for information - e.g. there are only 4 entries under Food Production.
Michael, Mitra, Chris, et al.,
Michael, I'm up to page 17 of the "Making Networks Work" and getting great value from it. Will offer more in depth response soon along w/ a possible 'model/strategy'.
Mitra, I love your suggestions = employ permaculture principles as a lens for observing what works, what doesn't work and what improvements can be made. In terms of "skip the theory", I disagree. Let's instead develop both theory & practice simultaneously; after all, nothing's quite so practical as a good theory and best theories derive current, functional wisdom from best practices.
Chris, You Da Man!!!
Ciao for now,
paul
Michael, Chris, Joshua, Mark & Mitra,
Michael, once again, thanks for the "structured network" link = I love this kind of good news! Here are some key terms, phrases, etc. that particularly ring my bell =
" serve as a social laboratory, self-consciously experimenting" p. 5
"voluntary, reciprocal and horizontal patterns of communication and exchange ... networks as defined primarily by their frames." p. 8 & 9
"cross-organizational team leadership." p. 9
"in the presence of active trust" p. 10
form following function (in my own words) p. 12 & 13
"envisioned as a seedbed" p. 15
"the principle of subsidiarity" p. 17
"Ten practices stand out, with each addressing perennial social movement concerns: accountability, participation, knowledge, responsiveness, efficiency, dialogue, resources, growth, movement building, and communication." p. 17 thru 25
"promote transparency" p. 19
"netiquette" p. 30 & 31
Perhaps there's a fit with your "Open Stewardship model", this "structured network" approach my/our interest in supporting High School Students to have fun helping one another learn about the elegant structures and efficient functions of real live ecosystems.
As per models that work well for me, Dana Klisanin's work on evolutionary guidance media is inspired by one of my intellectual heroes, Bela H. Banathy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_guidance_media
And David Cooperrider's work on appreciative inquiry is inspired by another such hero Geoffrey Vickers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appreciative_inquiry
As per an example of a strategy I'd love to brainstorm w/ y'all, I'll post one soon via the wave you got goin' on ...
Chris & Joshua, I appreciate the links to appro/sustainapedia's common history.
Mark, I trust you're not referring to me (since I'm feeling way more spaced-out than "sage"-ish : )
Mitra, FWIW, I had the pleasure of briefly meeting your colleague Lili almost 2 years ago as we waited on line during the Bioneers/Biomimicry intensive lunch break.
Ciao for now,
paul
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As for more info on ASME - the beta site is engineering for change.org
- the final version goes online by end of year and they are looking
for anyone with AT knowledge to sync up with. The idea is to establish
an OS platform for development/ knowledge repository/ collaborative
tool. They hope to make the whole database OS so people can add/
enhance and build the site as they wish - the key idea being in that
they know they don't know everything: what will people want and need
so they are hoping to learn fast and for the site to be flexible and
evolve to meet those needs...a pretty neat idea!
Will stay in touch
Ivana