[FWD: burt1iband@gmail.com] Re: VINUX-SUPPORT: How well does Windows 10 run "Ubuntu Bash?"?

[B. Henry]

For the windows users reading this, if you are at all interested in the commandline, or think you might be, give whatever version of bash you get in
windows a try.
It blows .bat file opsibilitys away, and from what I can tell about powershell would leave it dead in the water in situations where you could use either
one. I don't know how much you can interact with Windows components using bash, but If I used windows more I'd certainly be looking in to this.
If anyone does have any windows/bash experience, or gives winodws/bash a try, let us know how it works for you.
If you can wirte some .bat files and or have done very basic stuff in basic, you should find bash a pleasure to work with if it's anything like it is
on Linux.
Syntax can get you at times though, so try and learn good and best practices.


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Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:40:14 -0500
From: "B. Henry" <burt1...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: VINUX-SUPPORT: How well does Windows 10 run "Ubuntu Bash?"?
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I forgot to mention my main doubt/question: are we talking bash, or the Debian/Ubuntu shell used with /bin/sh instead of full on bash?
For those who've not heard of dash, or don't know anything about this,
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
should give you a bit of background and a clue or two as to what this is all about.

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B. Henry wrote:
Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 02:23:28PM -0500

> I was interested/glad to hear that bash is now easily available on win10.
> There has been a windows version of bash around for sometime I understand, not sure just how long though, not including cygwin options, but this goes
> beyond that it seems.
> Here's a link to an article I just read.
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-how-well-does-it-run-ubuntu-bash/?ftag=TREe331754&bhid=227176373664110979046091734472
> And here's a link to a survey of developers that indicates windows is losing some market share, (not read it yet).
> http://stackoverflow.com/research/developer-survey-2016
> If the survey does indeed show programmers are moving away from Windows I think it is more of a continuation of a trend toards a more OS agnostic world
> than a garanty of a significant growth of Linux desktop market share, but logically Linux should gain popularity, and dare I say it, perhaps achieve a
> minimal critical mass???
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[Mark Peveto]

Hmm, if anyone knows if it'll work with jaws, I might try it just to see.

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[B. Henry]

Do not know, but I'd imagine it would/hope it does, should work with all windows screenreaders, but I honestly have not booted in to windows in months,
only have one win7 installation that I can use at this time, and have not done the research to see if I could upgrade to win10.

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Mark Peveto wrote:
Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 03:03:27PM -0500

[Mark Peveto]

I upgraded to win 10 back in february, but I don't know how long it'd let you do that before it said you couldn't
anymore.

[B. Henry]

And how do you like it?
Mostly what I know about it is that
it's supposed to be a bit more efficient with systemresources, and it is using some of the conveniences that have been part of most Linux desktops for
a decade or more, e.g. virtual desktops, workspaces, what ever you want to call them.
All in all it sounded like MS was heading in good directions.
Win8 mostly did not impress me, but only looked at it for a couple of hours altogether. Win7 was mostly better than XP, but I don't like the virtual
folders, libraries or what ever they call em, and in generall don't like the way the file manager changed from XP. If I want a virtual folder, let me
create it, don't give them to me by default.
I have gotten confused by my documents in win7 more than once, and more than once could not find a file I'd downloaded or copied somewhere different
from where I though I had.
I don't hate windows though, just like Linux much more ini a number of ways.
A more secure and efficient XP would have been my ideal 2nd gen windows, and I skipped right over the first gen, well, I guess really xp was 3rd gen,
win3.x and below first, and the win9X and melinium versions would be 2nd gen,not sure about 2k, maybe gen2.5?
Why am I even talking about this?
Good night folks, sorry for the ramble.

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Mark Peveto wrote:

Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 10:33:20PM -0500

[Howard Lee Harkness]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:00 PM, B. Henry <burt1...@gmail.com> wrote:

All in all it sounded like MS was heading in good directions.

1) Embrace

2) Extend

3) Extinguish

The direction MS is heading has not changed, nor will it. Although I think that their attempt to subvert Linux is going to be a rough experience. Just ask Oracle or Sun what it was like getting their ass handed to them by the FOSS community.

Although I'm sure that they think their takeover of Java was successful. MS Java (aka C#) might be considered at least a partial success, but then, Java isn't FOSS.

I upgraded my Win7 laptop. To Ubuntu. Along with all but one of my PCs. I keep one Win10 box around just in case I find something I really need Win10 for (so far, I have not found anything I can't do on Ubuntu, but I have to use Windoze at work). And that Win10 box is about to become a dual-boot box. I may want to experiment with Mint, or maybe Vinux.

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[B. Henry]

Oh, I'm certainly not considering switching to windows just to ride along while they play catchup.
I was only saying that those who must use, or choose to use windows look like they will actually be getting some nice improvements to there experience
compared with the kind of stuff that was thrown at them a few uy years ago.
As for their true feelings and thoughts about FOS, Linux, the markiet place, etc; well, honestly it does not concern me much and I don't really have the
time to try and annalize...
Even a ponderous intity like MS must, and by all reports does realize, that the end user cares less and less about the OS, and does not want to pay a
lot, maybe anything for it; hence the biz model must change.
I think the shene has even worn off of apple os upgrade, "events" to a point, but apple has certqainly ridden a very special kind of wave for some
years, and still has its fanboys and girls who feel good about paying a premium price to bask in the glow from steve job's ectoplasm.

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Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 06:33:13AM -0500

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[Howard Lee Harkness]

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 3:44 PM, B. Henry <burt1...@gmail.com> wrote:

apple has certqainly ridden a very special kind of wave for some
years,

Apple has been mostly a hardware company. I expect that will continue. The "special kind of wave" is that they have built some very fine hardware and integrated it very well with an OS that made it very suitable for certain applications like video and music processing. The tradeoff was a "walled garden," which is probably ok in some circumstances. It keeps some of the folks who are not software nerds out of trouble (mostly).

Since I'm a software nerd, I manage to get into lots of trouble anyway.

I even own an iMac, which I got at a going-out-of-business sale for a very good price, and for some things, it works quite well. However, most of my serious work (at home) is done on Linux. Linux is one of the very few OS's I have used that isn't constantly in my way.

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I can see soon some bright spark with be running windows xp inside linux
inside windows ten, then of course runn an old y8 bit machine emulation
under xp.

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[Mark Peveto]

That sounds a litle complicated, but sure would be fun to try.

[B.Henry]

probably someone to prove a point will do so, I assume it is possible
given robust hardware, but on the serious side, for those who really
prefer XP, and don't need or want windows all the time, an XP vm run in
Linux is a great option.
I'll probably set mine up again one of these days, for sure will if I
get a powerful machine. Not that much I want to do in windows, but I
should see about getting it together sooner rather than later the more I
think about it.
I could still boot in to win7 if I wanted to do some serious windows
stuff, but probably could run kurzweil from my xp vm on current hardware
with out having to wait days for output.

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[B.Henry]

so did it work?
Might work better with NVDA, or maybe with jaws review cursor or what
ever it is called, no a clue for the moment.

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