PHD2 guiding drifts

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Kevin Wisdom

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Apr 12, 2021, 4:56:30 AM4/12/21
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Hello,

I have a problem with last night's unattended imaging run, in that all my subs are ruined by elongated streaks where my guided mount has slewed all over the place looking for the guide star. I guess clouds drifted over and the guide star is lost.

Any reason why my mount doesn't continue to track without guiding in this instance and resume when the guide star is found again? 

Things are fine when it's a perfectly cloud-free night, but where I live, that is a rare occurance.

This is not the first time this has happened, and I don't know how to configure my setup to avoid it.

My setup is:

APT v3.87
PHD2 2.6.9dev2
Celestron AVX ASCOM
QHY5LII-C finder guider
QHY294M

Please find the enclosed guide log.

Many Thanks,

Kevin





PHD2_GuideLog_2021-04-11_123239.txt

Bruce Waddington

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Apr 12, 2021, 1:59:30 PM4/12/21
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If you do a search on the PHD2 forum for ‘clouds’, you’ll find all sorts of discussion on this topic.  Here’s a starting point:

 

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Aug 18, 2020, 10:55:08 AM

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This topic has been pounded on several times in the past few months, so you should probably read through these threads so we don't have to type it all again:

 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/open-phd-guiding/lost/open-phd-guiding/J86G4LL_JwM/43P2Q59DAQAJ

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/open-phd-guiding/lost/open-phd-guiding/rVcB2AswE7g/Gqk92BmnAAAJ

 

To summarize,  PHD2 doesn’t move the scope if there’s no guide star visible.  If the guide star is lost then regained within the same tracking region, it will move the scope back to the original lock point.  If your problem is that PHD2 is locking on to a hot pixel, there are several tools available in the UI to avoid that – basically parameters (e.g. Min-HFD) that define what a reasonable guide star should look like for your setup. All of those tools should be applied, a simple dark library is barely a start.   If a guide star is lost for an extended time period, the telescope *will* drift off-target, even as PHD2 keeps taking exposures looking for a guide star within the search region.  If something suddenly shows up in the search region, it's a good bet that it's not the guide star you were originally using.  If you’re trying to run long unattended imaging sessions, you should be using an automation app of some kind that will handle cloud recovery correctly.  That’s really where the recovery process belongs.  There are a number of automation solutions available, some better than others with respect to recovery from lost stars and clouds.  Without a capable automation app, you'll no doubt have to discard lots of exposures if you have significant periods of cloud cover.

 

Bruce

Bottom line, if you want to image all night with intermittently cloudy skies while being tucked in bed in your jammies, you only have a couple of choices:

1.        Be willing to discard lots of unusable frames and just extend the total time you spend on the target across multiple nights

2.       Acquire a capable image automation application that does a professional job of recovering from these events.

 

Regards,

Bruce

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Kevin Wisdom

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Apr 12, 2021, 5:42:17 PM4/12/21
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Duly noted.

Thanks for your assistance.

Kev

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