PHD2 - better tuning

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Astro Photos2

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Mar 16, 2021, 9:27:37 PM3/16/21
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I use PHD2 Guiding and I have a sense that it is just 'ok' for my configuration and that it can be tuned to be a bit better. I think a few things can be adjusted but I'm not sure which ones..
Should I increase my exposure to 4sec? Should I bin the guiding camera? Increase the # steps? Lower or increase aggressiveness?
I've uploaded my guiding log here for a view.

Thanks in advance!

bw_msgboard

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Mar 17, 2021, 11:23:51 AM3/17/21
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Hi Astro.  I think there’s plenty of room for improvement here, probably by 50%.  To start, you should follow these instructions and configure EQMOD for better guiding:

 

https://github.com/OpenPHDGuiding/phd2/wiki/EQASCOM-Settings

 

Your current guide speeds of 0.1x sidereal are far too slow for responsive guiding.  After you’ve done that, you can follow this procedure to get a baseline measurement of your mount’s capabilities:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/os1thorvswmzaul/How%20to%20create%20a%20baseline%20for%20guiding%20results%20using%20OpenPHD2.pdf?dl=0  

 

 

The question is not how to tweak PHD2 settings, it’s how to understand the limitations of your mount, what can be done to improve it, and then what is the best guiding strategy for mitigating whatever problems remain.  You should anticipate having some Dec backlash problems and a high level of uncorrected periodic error in RA.  These are points you should research and come up to speed on.  Also, you’re using one of these wheezy finder-scope arrangements for guiding, so that will be a constant source of weakness.  Those arrangements usually won’t stay tight so they often cause large excursions in the guide star and overall poor results.

 

You will have to decide how much effort you want to put into this relative to how serious you are about your final images.  Your current total guiding RMS is over 2.0 and it would be a reasonable goal for this class of mount to get that down to 1.0 assuming your local site conditions will support that.

 

Good luck,

Bruce

 

 

 


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Astro Photos2

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Mar 17, 2021, 8:56:08 PM3/17/21
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50% would be great!  I'll tackle this in stages but its clear that there's room for improvement.
Thanks for the guidance!

Astro Photos2

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Mar 20, 2021, 6:50:40 PM3/20/21
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Wow - I see a significant improvement already. I created a new profile, set the rate @ .9, polar aligned then ran 2 consecutive ~15min runs of the Guiding assistant..
While I'm sure there is more room for improvement, this a a great start - thanks.
The timeframe from 21:34 onward is what I'm looking at...

Thanks again!

bw_msgboard

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Mar 20, 2021, 7:39:34 PM3/20/21
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Yes, the overall guiding has improved, no question.  You cheated a bit by running the 21:34 sequence at Dec = 47 – that masks the full extent of the uncorrected periodic error in RA.  Doing measurements and testing close to Dec = 0 is a better approach. Your Dec guiding now is quite good, the PHD2 Dec backlash compensation seems to be effective.  But your challenge now is to avoid getting elongated stars when the RA performance is nearly 2x worse than Dec.  You should probably come up to speed on periodic error correction and how best to get that done on your mount – other mount-specific forums will have lots of discussion on that.  You can see you have nearly a +/- 15 arc-sec periodic error, most of which is occurring at the native worm period:

 

 

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Astro Photos2

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Mar 21, 2021, 9:07:37 AM3/21/21
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I tried this again.. I think it's better, I and think I ran calibration at dec=0.... (I slewed via eqmod to dec=0 before running the guiding assistant.)
The graph looks better now..

I'm using PHD2LogViewer to review the results, and I don't see how you got the graphs you showed - What program did you use the visualize the ~15sec arcsec error?
Also, PHD2 seems to have routines to address PEC. Adding this step, might help mitigate the periodic error?

Thanks very much!
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