Microsoft's answer to data distribution....(Open Marketplace)

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Jose Leal

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Apr 13, 2010, 11:25:22 AM4/13/10
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Microsoft announces "Dallas" as a for-profit model of Open
Marketplace:

http://live.visitmix.com/MIX10/Sessions/SVC02

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Alex Todd (TrustEnabler)

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Apr 13, 2010, 12:18:57 PM4/13/10
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Jose,

You truly are a visionary! It's remarkable how mature their thinking
is on this.

Does this mean we should start sourcing a tombstone for
http://www.openmarketplace.org?

- Alex

Stephen Evans

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Apr 13, 2010, 12:25:38 PM4/13/10
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Reminds me a bit of YQL: http://developer.yahoo.com/yql/. I think this is more of a broad-based data play for .Net developers than anything that would directly compete with Open Marketplaces. But I'm not an expert on either... ;-)

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socrates32

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Apr 13, 2010, 3:14:14 PM4/13/10
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Interesting, with lots of similarities to OM, but it's clear they're coming from a very different perspective. MS appears to basically be looking at becoming a distribution channel for data, rather than building the body of data available in the public sphere. You need to be in the top 5 by revenue to become a provider, and there doesn't appear to be any facility to add or change the datasets connected to "Dallas" (at least not directly, though he touches on it in the Q&A). So status quo for the big content providers (albeit with lower friction, greater discoverability, etc.), rather than harnessing crowd-sourced curatorship to build the commons. Also, inconsistent and possibly restrictive terms-of-use across different sources will likely be a barrier.

That said, I think the idea of a data-explorer interface is an excellent one. So a query- and feed-builder to make it easy to integrate should probably be a priority.
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jle...@gmail.com

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Apr 13, 2010, 3:31:10 PM4/13/10
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I completely agree Christopher.

 

All the things you point out are the reasons that OM needs to exist. Otherwise, we will have the same old thing in a different package.

 

OM is about going from the ground up. MS is doing it from the top data providers down.

OM is about empowering communities, MS is empowering data vendors.

 

The Odata and the data-explores are both things that we should review and integrate where possible.

 

jal

Alex Todd (TrustEnabler)

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Apr 13, 2010, 5:05:28 PM4/13/10
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In principle, there is generally a market opportunity for an open
source version of a proprietary product. In many ways, now it makes
it much easier to describe the concept and its value proposition. All
we have to say is it's essentially an open source version of
Microsoft's Dallas service, with the following distinguishing
features..... The advantages of Open Marketplace are.....

However, now we would need to mobilize the big players who would like
to compete with Microsoft to support OM both for credibility and
securing sufficient resources to make it viable.

- Alex

> <AlexT...@trustenablement.com> wrote:
>
> Jose,
>
> You truly are a visionary!  It's remarkable how mature their thinking
> is on this.
>

> Does this mean we should start sourcing a tombstone forhttp://www.openmarketplace.org?

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